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sgrizzle

#45
August 13, 2008, 08:44:15 AM
Mobile site and SMS have been discussed but we're still hammering out some stuff we want to change to the website now before adding to it.

carltonplace

#46
August 13, 2008, 11:36:36 AM
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Originally posted by Red Arrow

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Originally posted by carltonplace

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Originally posted by Red Arrow

I like the idea and the map. For someone like me that only occasionally gets downtown, it takes the guesswork out of where to go.

Now, if we just had a trolley so I could have two beers instead of only one....


Guess what! there is a weekend trolley downtown!

Can we add the trolley information to dtlive?

I didn't see Topeca coffee listed.


Guess what!!! We DON'T have a trolley. We have a cutsie rubber tired, diesel powered bus.  It tries to look like a certain era trolley but doesn't really succeed. It's better than nothing but it is not a trolley.  Calling that a trolley is much like calling a dinghy with a small outboard motor a "Bass Boat", a plow horse a "Quarter Horse". It's kind of insulting really.

I haven't lived near the trolley since 1971 so I don't have any of my own pictures to post.

See:
http://www.phillytrolley.org/

Look carefully at the rubber tired Trackless Trolley. It is electric powered from two overhead wires.

The word trolley as used here is derived from the device that collected the power from the overhead wire(s).




Of course you are correct I will restate:

Guess what! there is a weekend trolley shaped rubber wheeled conveyance downtown!

Can we add the weekend trolley shaped rubber wheeled conveyance information to dtlive?

Townsend

#47
August 13, 2008, 03:36:02 PM
I really enjoy the weekend trolley shaped rubber wheeled conveyance.  It makes me want to eat pasta from a box boiled with a spice packet...a Tulsy Town tasty morsel

Red Arrow

#48
August 13, 2008, 05:31:18 PM
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Originally posted by carltonplace


Of course you are correct I will restate:

Guess what! there is a weekend trolley shaped rubber wheeled conveyance downtown!

Can we add the weekend trolley shaped rubber wheeled conveyance information to dtlive?

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I would say I hate to be picky but I'd be telling an untruth regarding buses being called trolleys.  I think I've heard it referred to as the T-Town Bus.  What's wrong with that?  I'll bend a bit an say that since a real trolley is impractical at this time, the T-Town Bus is a good idea. There is nothing wrong with calling it a bus.

In the 1930s or so, buses were considered by many to be superior to the old trolleys. (Mostly by GM, Firestone, and Standard Oil.) That is one reason the PCC trolley cars were developed, to compete with buses. In most cities, Tulsa included, it was too late.

Street cars and other rail would be good for Tulsa.  If we call the bus a trolley and decide to get a real trolley, I believe the local vocal nay-sayers would say we already have a trolley. Then they would ask what is all the proposed money for?
 

TheArtist

#49
August 13, 2008, 09:19:37 PM
When I lived in Eureka Springs they had the same thing and called them trolleys. Nobody complained or went up in arms at the notion of them being called Trolleys. The Tourists loved them, locals to for that matter. I always enjoyed using them. They are different than a typical bus in look, and feel when riding them. They just seem more fun. Is that reason enough to call them something different? Who gives a crap? I am going to call it a Trolley, and if you dont like it... get a life or a therapist and get over it.


"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

Red Arrow

#50
August 13, 2008, 10:26:00 PM
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Originally posted by TheArtist

When I lived in Eureka Springs they had the same thing and called them trolleys. Nobody complained or went up in arms at the notion of them being called Trolleys. The Tourists loved them, locals to for that matter. I always enjoyed using them. They are different than a typical bus in look, and feel when riding them. They just seem more fun. Is that reason enough to call them something different? Who gives a crap? I am going to call it a Trolley, and if you dont like it... get a life or a therapist and get over it.





Geeez, keep your blood pressure down. I know I'm not really  going to convince anyone to call it a bus.  If I just said "Hey, it's a bus.", I'd get even less response than I normally do.  Rail enthusiasts know the difference between a bus and a trolley but most Americans wouldn't recognize a trolley if it ran over them. The name sounds "cool", they know the word trolley. You could put seats and a canvas roof on a trailer pulled by a pickup and call it a trolley as far as most people know. It would be different and fun to ride. There's a bunch of money to be made calling those buses trolleys.

Anyone who wants to remain ignorant is free to do so.  

I painted the inside of the house. You paint walls and ceilings. I guess I'll call myself an artist. [:)]
 

TURobY

#51
August 14, 2008, 07:24:33 AM
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Originally posted by TheArtist

When I lived in Eureka Springs...


I'm so sorry for you. I love the town, but I could never, ever, ever, imagine living there. [:)]
---Robert

TheArtist

#52
August 14, 2008, 08:14:51 AM
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Originally posted by TURobY

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Originally posted by TheArtist

When I lived in Eureka Springs...


I'm so sorry for you. I love the town, but I could never, ever, ever, imagine living there. [:)]


I understand completely. One reason I joined the army was that it was a way to get the heck out of that town lol.

"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

TheArtist

#53
August 14, 2008, 08:25:05 AM Last Edit: August 14, 2008, 12:13:46 PM by TheArtist
quote:
Originally posted by Red Arrow

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

When I lived in Eureka Springs they had the same thing and called them trolleys. Nobody complained or went up in arms at the notion of them being called Trolleys. The Tourists loved them, locals to for that matter. I always enjoyed using them. They are different than a typical bus in look, and feel when riding them. They just seem more fun. Is that reason enough to call them something different? Who gives a crap? I am going to call it a Trolley, and if you dont like it... get a life or a therapist and get over it.





Geeez, keep your blood pressure down. I know I'm not really  going to convince anyone to call it a bus.  If I just said "Hey, it's a bus.", I'd get even less response than I normally do.  Rail enthusiasts know the difference between a bus and a trolley but most Americans wouldn't recognize a trolley if it ran over them. The name sounds "cool", they know the word trolley. You could put seats and a canvas roof on a trailer pulled by a pickup and call it a trolley as far as most people know. It would be different and fun to ride. There's a bunch of money to be made calling those buses trolleys.

Anyone who wants to remain ignorant is free to do so.  

I painted the inside of the house. You paint walls and ceilings. I guess I'll call myself an artist. [:)]



I really think "most" people do know the difference, its ignorant to think they dont', and that its perhaps only "rail enthusiasts who do lol.

"Painting is the art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather and exposing them to the critic." [:)]


"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

Red Arrow

#54
August 14, 2008, 09:10:59 AM
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Originally posted by TheArtist

"Painting is the art of protecting flat surfaces from the weather and exposing them to the critic." [:)]




Hey, the word "artist" is just another word. If I want to call myself an artist, I can.

I could also call myself a doctor. When I was in Navy boot camp, my CPO told me only a doctor could dispense asprin.  I now determine if I need an asprin and take one. Therefore I am a doctor.

Dentists clean teeth. I brush my teeth, therefore I am a dentist.

They're just words, who gives a crap.

The point is that words do have a meaning. I know people want to call that bus thing a trolley and that I am not going to stop it. They are, however, still incorrect.  


Red Arrow, part time artist.
 

RecycleMichael

#55
August 14, 2008, 09:57:49 AM
I rode a bike yesterday...therefore I am Paul Tay.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Red Arrow

#56
August 14, 2008, 10:00:31 AM
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I rode a bike yesterday...therefore I am Paul Tay.


If you want.  Why,  I don't know.
 

RecycleMichael

#57
August 14, 2008, 10:09:16 AM
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Originally posted by Red Arrow

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I rode a bike yesterday...therefore I am Paul Tay.


If you want.  Why,  I don't know.


Did you call me a trollop?
Power is nothing till you use it.

TURobY

#58
August 14, 2008, 10:29:46 AM
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I rode a bike yesterday...therefore I am Paul Tay.


I rode a bike today... but don't call me Paul Tay.
---Robert

Red Arrow

#59
August 14, 2008, 10:58:27 AM Last Edit: August 14, 2008, 11:00:55 AM by Red Arrow
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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Did you call me a trollop?

I didn't call you anything.  I have heard the bus that wants to be a trolley called a trollop. I'll look for the link if you want.

edit: corrected typo on spelling of "bus"
 
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