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« Reply #270 on: August 29, 2017, 10:00:34 am »

Ironic that it is at this intersection...

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/5/26/stop-shoehorning-suburbia-into-walkable-places
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« Reply #271 on: August 29, 2017, 10:47:21 am »

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« Reply #272 on: August 29, 2017, 10:47:25 am »

This seems like a woefully small intersection to handle the sort of traffic this will draw.
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« Reply #273 on: August 29, 2017, 10:52:00 am »

This seems like a woefully small intersection to handle the sort of traffic this will draw.

That was actually my first thought. Are left turns allowed off 15th at Lewis?
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« Reply #274 on: August 29, 2017, 10:54:56 am »

That was actually my first thought. Are left turns allowed off 15th at Lewis?

There are restricted lefts in both directions during certain hours which most people ignore anyhow.
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« Reply #275 on: August 29, 2017, 11:01:13 am »

Ironic that it is at this intersection...

Was this Bill & Ruth's originally a QT?  
I work 1 block away.   That intersection is woefully not pedestrian friendly.
It's a crapshoot whether or not each corner has a cross button to get to your destination corner.
I usually just walk down to 16th or so and jaywalk.   It's safer.
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« Reply #276 on: August 29, 2017, 11:34:20 am »

Table Talk: Nola's Creole and Cocktails to open on Cherry Street in the fall

http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/scene/restaurants/table-talk-nola-s-creole-and-cocktails-to-open-on/article_61c760fc-55d1-5ce9-a81f-d6d837bfd3ad.html

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Nola’s Creole and Cocktails is scheduled to open this fall on Cherry Street, according to its website.

“Nola’s brings the great tastes of New Orleans to Cherry Street,” it says on the website.

It will be in the former Gray Snail Saloon space at 1334 E. 15th St.

A menu on the website lists a variety of “small plates,” including seared foie gras terrine ($17), roasted Gulf shrimp ($11), cheese board ($16), boudin balls ($6), cracklins ($8) and daily sausage ($6). A dinner menu was not posted yet.

It will be open for lunch from 11 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. Tuesday-Saturday and dinner from 5-10 p.m. Tuesday-Thursday and 5-11 p.m. Friday-Saturday, according to the website. http://nolastulsa.com/
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« Reply #277 on: August 29, 2017, 11:34:43 am »

Was this Bill & Ruth's originally a QT?  
I work 1 block away.   That intersection is woefully not pedestrian friendly.
It's a crapshoot whether or not each corner has a cross button to get to your destination corner.
I usually just walk down to 16th or so and jaywalk.   It's safer.

Yeah, I gotta think that intersection is already a complete lost cause with the other three corners being a suburban style Reasors, Staples and Walgreens. The two main buildings they are taking out are an ugly strip mall and a former convenience store.
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« Reply #278 on: August 29, 2017, 12:20:07 pm »

Was this Bill & Ruth's originally a QT?  
I work 1 block away.   That intersection is woefully not pedestrian friendly.
It's a crapshoot whether or not each corner has a cross button to get to your destination corner.
I usually just walk down to 16th or so and jaywalk.   It's safer.

Yes it was a QT before Bill & Ruths.  I dont expect to hear why QT abandoned it in the first place, but maybe they now see the removal of the "Lil Reasors" gas station across the street as creating a gasoline desert.

I hope this isnt going to be another fight to get QT to obey lighting ordinances like 21st & Harvard was, but they seem to have gotten the message with the big Type III just built at 41st & Memorial.
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« Reply #279 on: August 29, 2017, 12:25:39 pm »

But instead of improving the area, this is a further step away from density, urban, or walkable...
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« Reply #280 on: August 29, 2017, 12:36:33 pm »

But instead of improving the area, this is a further step away from density, urban, or walkable...

If it's not broke nobody complains, why fix it?
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« Reply #281 on: August 29, 2017, 01:13:56 pm »

But instead of improving the area, this is a further step away from density, urban, or walkable...

Most (read most likely everyone) in the neighborhood drives to work. Gas stations, while ugly, are good business in neighborhoods like that. Even in the heart of Cherry Street, unless you work in one of those shops/restaurants, your tail is driving to work too.
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« Reply #282 on: August 29, 2017, 01:34:25 pm »

This intersection may be a lost cause as it is, but a QT will make it significantly worse in every way imaginable.

As for the streets themselves, I doubt they can handle the increased traffic.  15th is no left turn anytime in the east bound lanes, and prohibited during morning and evening rush hours in the west bound lanes.

QT may be a great place to work and a good corporate citizen in many respects, but it is not doing anything positive in mid-town with its giant suburban footprint.
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« Reply #283 on: August 29, 2017, 01:54:31 pm »

This intersection may be a lost cause as it is, but a QT will make it significantly worse in every way imaginable.

As for the streets themselves, I doubt they can handle the increased traffic.  15th is no left turn anytime in the east bound lanes, and prohibited during morning and evening rush hours in the west bound lanes.

QT may be a great place to work and a good corporate citizen in many respects, but it is not doing anything positive in mid-town with its giant suburban footprint.


They need a new urban store prototype for sections of cities like this.
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« Reply #284 on: August 29, 2017, 02:11:19 pm »

15th is no left turn anytime in the east bound lanes, and prohibited during morning and evening rush hours in the west bound lanes.

Lucky for QT:
heading east: they'd be accessed by going straight... no left hand turn required
heading west:  the property stretches a block east of the intersection.    no need to turn left at the light - turn left into QT or Lewis Pl.


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