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And what of the Old Ball Park?

Started by AMP, July 24, 2008, 09:04:47 PM

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AMP

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BTW, TU hasn't had a baseball team since old Oiler Park collapsed-- when I was a kid, I remember going to old Oiler Park to see TU versus OU...



AMP

 Photo from the collection of Wayne McCombs, author of "Baseball in Tulsa".










I recall when we had box seats on the 3rd base line near the Oilers dug out.  I remember the aroma of the freshly cut grass and the water that had been sprayed on the field prior to the game.  


And Andy Andrews always great opening line... Let's Go-a-oooooooh Tulsa!  Photo from Tulsa TV Memories Dot Come.

Double A

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Originally posted by carltonplace

I've heard a rumor that TU is interested in the ball park



The ballpark should be donated and placed in a public park, preferably somewhere in north Tulsa, (maybe Mohawk) for public use considering all the public funded pork involved the downtown ballpark deal.
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TheTed

Hopefully any changes will be centered around making the horse track less ugly. It's gotta be the least attractive track in the country.

Let's get rid of the parking lot in the infield.
 

waterboy

I enjoyed the stock car races as a youth too. As they came around turn 4, clods of clay would often come flying into the stands. It was fun but way too loud. In high school we would drive up to reservoir hill and enjoy the view. You could not only hear them 10 miles away, you could actually feel the earth rumble on a Saturday night.

Couldn't be placed anywhere near the riverparks at 21st area. Please?

inteller

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I can't support an oval race track.  I'm still waiting for Gutterman to come through on his promise for a short road course at the strip. Now if he wanted to work a deal to build one at the fairgrounds I could go for that.

Tulsa is a car town, and I think we need to embrace that....but not with NASCRAP ovals.

i still dont understand the comment that Fiat got them evicted in the 70s.  Why would Fiat do that?

sgrizzle

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Originally posted by Double A

quote:
Originally posted by carltonplace

I've heard a rumor that TU is interested in the ball park



The ballpark should be donated and placed in a public park, preferably somewhere in north Tulsa, (maybe Mohawk) for public use considering all the public funded pork involved the downtown ballpark deal.



That or as part of some West Riverparks area would be nice.

And if Tulsa opens a track it needs to be dirt, not asphalt.

waterboy

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Originally posted by inteller

I can't support an oval race track.  I'm still waiting for Gutterman to come through on his promise for a short road course at the strip. Now if he wanted to work a deal to build one at the fairgrounds I could go for that.

Tulsa is a car town, and I think we need to embrace that....but not with NASCRAP ovals.

i still dont understand the comment that Fiat got them evicted in the 70s.  Why would Fiat do that?



Oh, yes. The Italian connection is quite strong here.[;)] JoeMomma probably knows.

Wouldn't it be cool to shut down an area of town and have them race on city streets once a year? Maybe the formula one organizations would pave our streets in exchange for racing on them.

inteller

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Originally posted by waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

I can't support an oval race track.  I'm still waiting for Gutterman to come through on his promise for a short road course at the strip. Now if he wanted to work a deal to build one at the fairgrounds I could go for that.

Tulsa is a car town, and I think we need to embrace that....but not with NASCRAP ovals.

i still dont understand the comment that Fiat got them evicted in the 70s.  Why would Fiat do that?



Oh, yes. The Italian connection is quite strong here.[;)] JoeMomma probably knows.

Wouldn't it be cool to shut down an area of town and have them race on city streets once a year? Maybe the formula one organizations would pave our streets in exchange for racing on them.



well, a while back I had suggested that Semgroup pave tulsa with some of that fancy hot mix they developed and was testing along a stretch of the turner turnpike.  I guess not anymore though!

Double A

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Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by Double A

quote:
Originally posted by carltonplace

I've heard a rumor that TU is interested in the ball park



The ballpark should be donated and placed in a public park, preferably somewhere in north Tulsa, (maybe Mohawk) for public use considering all the public funded pork involved the downtown ballpark deal.



That or as part of some West Riverparks area would be nice.

And if Tulsa opens a track it needs to be dirt, not asphalt.



I'd like to see Tulsa open a track for electric vehicles only. I'd pay to watch these bad boys fly around the track with zero emissions and almost no noise. I think this would really put Tulsa on the map in a progressive, pioneering, way. For once, we'd be leading the way instead of following everyone else.



There might be some fast electric motorcycles on the horizon. Tulsans love motorcycles, too.
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AMP

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Originally
I still dont understand the comment that Fiat got them evicted in the 70s.  Why would Fiat do that?



The term is fiat not Fiat.  

The Public Trust Authority was in fear of having to fight a tort against them regarding a noise curfew issue.  They caved in and evicted Stanley Durrett who was the promoter of Tulsa Speedway at that time.  Gloria Huckabee, a neighbor whos husband was also a Tulsa attorney, was the biggest opponet of Auto Racing at the Tulsa Fairgrounds.  Some speculate she was paid by the Horse Racing Industry to help force the Auto Racing off of the Tulsa Fair Grounds.

fiat

fiĀ·at    Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation [fee-aht, -at; fahy-uht, -at]

noun 1. an authoritative decree, sanction, or order: a royal fiat.  

2. a formula containing the word fiat, by which a person in authority gives sanction.  

3. an arbitrary decree or pronouncement, esp. by a person or group of persons having absolute authority to enforce it: The king ruled by fiat.  

JoeMommaBlake

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I'd like to see Tulsa open a track for electric vehicles only. I'd pay to watch these bad boys fly around the track with zero emissions and almost no noise. I think this would really put Tulsa on the map in a progressive, pioneering, way. For once, we'd be leading the way instead of following everyone else.



There might be some fast electric motorcycles on the horizon. Tulsans love motorcycles, too.



+1
Awesome idea. I'd go.
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carltonplace

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Originally posted by cannon_fodder

quote:
Originally posted by carltonplace

I've heard a rumor that TU is interested in the ball park



I'm VERY in to Tulsa sports and have not heard this rumor.  Why wouldn't Tulsa want to play at the new stadium if they were to play off campus?  That is, if they had a baseball team.

/not that I know you are wrong, just haven't heard it.



The source was a member of the TU Alum, the reason would that it is closer to the school, and the problem is that there is no male or female baseball team and they would need both. Probably not likely since I'm sure the county will want this corner for parking to match the other corner.

cannon_fodder

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the problem is that there is no male or female baseball team


The University of Tulsa has a softball team.  They play at an on-campus facility.
http://tulsahurricane.cstv.com/sports/w-softbl/tuls-w-softbl-body.html

They were 2nd in C-USA last year and played in the Regionals of the NCAA tournament.
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carltonplace

Um, I'm not disputing the softball team, I guess I thought that they were different sports.