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Started by Rowdy, March 14, 2007, 05:38:47 PM

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Rowdy

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Originally posted by Wilbur

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Originally posted by Rowdy

Thanks for your help.  All I need now is to find the regulation or ordinance that shows me what ODOT or whoever has to abide by when lowering a speed limit temporarily due to construction or other issues.  

Something to the effect of, "posted sign should be within 200 feet of any intersection..." or something to that nature.  I went all over the net but only found the cityoftulsa.org rules and ordinances that WE as citizens are to follow but I can't find anything else.  Can someone point me in the right direction?



You can go to www.oscn.net.  They are posted within Title 47.  In short, you can't lower the speed limit more then six times per mile nor more then 10 miles-per-hour at a time.



I've been to a site similar to this that posted this same material.  However, all it states for roads are "highways".  Does this in fact mean highways or any road traveled on by a motorist?

TeeDub


For something like that you don't even need a lawyer.   Just go in and take your pictures, talk to the DA in charge of the case and he will drop it.

(I had something similar for running a stop sign that didn't exist.)

Rowdy

Well, a lawyer wanted 500 bucks to do it and I said "forget it". I think I can do this myself. He even offered that he thinks he could get me on a probationary period for a few months.  Why in the heck would I want that?!  

I'll give my picture evidence to the court and then turn around and point my finger at the cop and say "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"  Well, maybe not.  [;)]

Conan71

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Originally posted by Rowdy

Well, a lawyer wanted 500 bucks to do it and I said "forget it". I think I can do this myself. He even offered that he thinks he could get me on a probationary period for a few months.  Why in the heck would I want that?!  

I'll give my picture evidence to the court and then turn around and point my finger at the cop and say "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"  Well, maybe not.  [;)]



"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Rowdy

Ok, this is the big week to "face the music". [B)]

Here is my interpretation of a birds-eye view of the event. I hope it explains it somewhat to the casual viewer.

RecycleMichael

You left the Fiesta Mart and the car wash off of your map. Are you trying to hide something?

I gotta go with the police on this one.
Power is nothing till you use it.

sgrizzle

I would add the fact that all of the traffic barrels went E<->W at the time and nothing N<->S

Rowdy

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Originally posted by recyclemichael

You left the Fiesta Mart and the car wash off of your map. Are you trying to hide something?

I gotta go with the police on this one.



Sounds like a case of OCD.  If I did that, then I would have to add foliage and simulated traffic.

RecycleMichael

Maybe if you added foliage to your picture...right in front of the new speed limit sign...

I won't tell.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

I drove through that intersection headed south last week.  I can't see a single reason for the speed limit to still be 25 south of the intersection.  Fortunately, I remembered Rowdy's post and kept it at 25.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

cannon_fodder

I was actually standing naked behind that McDonalds on that day.  I have to question your accuracy unless you add in the naked man behind McDonalds when presenting to the court.
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I crush grooves.

Rowdy

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Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I was actually standing naked behind that McDonalds on that day.  I have to question your accuracy unless you add in the naked man behind McDonalds when presenting to the court.



If you were standing naked behind a Mickey D's, then you should be the one taking my place. [:D]


Rowdy

If for some odd reason the court will not dismiss this ticket, then I wonder how to go about the appeals process...

I guess I will cross that bridge when I come to it.  

Darn bridges....

Conan71

I think you have made a good case.  The only issue will be whether or not the officer acknowledges if you were continuing south on Mingo across 81st or had turned off 81st.

Good luck.

I think I'm more interested in the outcome of this then who Dannilynn's father is.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Rowdy

Fellow TulsaNow Forum members:

I had my court date today. Let me tell you that first of all, I have never felt so shocked, stunned and simply amazed at what transpired today. The judge told me that I was guilty and that the Prosecution he felt did their job.  My problem with everything is why he thinks I am guilty.  

First, the officer flat out lied and told me that he pulled me over in the McDonald's parking lot.  I was in awe that here was someone who wrote me a ticket on E 84th Pl. tell the court that he cited me in the parking lot.  I told them the whole story. I was turning right on 81st St and heading southbound on Mingo.  Then, I noticed an unmarked suddenly behind me.  He then pointed his finger out of the window and I had that deer-in-the-headlights look for an instant as in "what the heck did I do?"

I then found the first place to pull over and it was the residential district on the east side of Mingo which is E 84th Pl.  I sat there and he wrote me a ticket as clear as day.  Yet, with his story, I was cited at McDonald's.  I submitted my pictures and then the officer said that there WAS a 25mph speed limit sign farther up the road behind me and still south of the intersection! Gee now how can that be possible? You can see on the pics I took that I was right smack past the intersection and yet the officer stated that there was still a sign posted behind me. Unbelievable.

Now that I am home, I have looked at all the pics again and it clearly shows that there is ONE speed limit sign posted near any part of that intersection-not two.  Especially on the day I was cited where there was NO sign.  The officer said that there was one posted TEN FEET just south of the intersection.  NOT TRUE. Heck, there's even an ordinance that the city cannot post that many signs close together. I am sorry folks but I didn't used to be one to dislike police or the court system, but I got royally screwed on this one.  I don't want to lump all the police and the Tulsa Court into one bad egg but I am afraid I do not have a choice.

How many people fight tickets?  Not many.  I know some do but a LOT don't.  I had a chance to plea bargain when the judge came in but I felt and still feel there is no reason to plea bargain something where you aren't guilty. I had pictures and all the officer had was his memory.  I questioned the officer and asked him, "I understand you write a lot of citations. Is it possible to remember every person you pull over and where exactly it happened?"  He said no.  But he went so far as to state that he remembered his buddy in the same parking lot writing other tickets to others when I was cited.  Interesting since I didn't join in this little pullover in McD's.

Let me state to anyone who reads this that I CANNOT STAND TULSA POLICE OR THE COURT SYSTEM. I got screwed over and it hurts more that I now have however many points and a record for so many years and I didn't do a darned thing wrong. I wasn't in there to get out of a ticket, I was in there to keep my record clean, insurace from going up and keep to the principal of the matter which was I did not break the law going 19+ over the limit. Screw'em.