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Started by RecycleMichael, March 22, 2010, 02:38:51 PM

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guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

JeffM

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Quote from: guido911 on May 03, 2010, 08:15:53 PM
Not sure if Obamacare will affect the elections, but it sure impacted this doctor:

http://standardspeaker.com/news/surgeon-quits-hospital-job-cites-obamacare-1.754068

My favorite comment on the above:  "Another oppressed country club Republican deciding to quit a job because it doesn't pay enough."

Conservative TRAITOR.  He puts his politics over his practice...
Maybe he can get a job at a call center.... or not.
I hope he loses EVERYTHING... including his ability to get health insurance.
I hope he gets a job at McDonald's...... or Walmart.... I hope he has a pre-existing condition..... and has to declare bankruptcy because of it.

That would be a just and fitting karma punishment for this JERK.
Just like this smarmy little scumbag from Florida.......

Doctor Jack Cassell Tells Obama Supporters To Seek Help Elsewhere
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/02/jack-cassell-doctor-refus_n_523076.html



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JeffM

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/doctors/oath_modern.html

The Hippocratic Oath: Modern Version
    
I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.
Bring back the Tulsa Roughnecks!.... JeffM is now TulsaRufnex....  http://www.tulsaroughnecks.com

Conan71

Quote from: JeffM on May 03, 2010, 08:26:55 PM
My favorite comment on the above:  "Another oppressed country club Republican deciding to quit a job because it doesn't pay enough."

Conservative TRAITOR.  He puts his politics over his practice...
Maybe he can get a job at a call center.... or not.
I hope he loses EVERYTHING... including his ability to get health insurance.
I hope he gets a job at McDonald's...... or Walmart.... I hope he has a pre-existing condition..... and has to declare bankruptcy because of it.

That would be a just and fitting karma punishment for this JERK.
Just like this smarmy little scumbag from Florida.......

Doctor Jack Cassell Tells Obama Supporters To Seek Help Elsewhere
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/02/jack-cassell-doctor-refus_n_523076.html





Did you read this comment though:

"In 2003, Polidora had his privileges revoked at Hazleton-St. Joseph Medical Center and Hazleton General Hospital following a dispute about a Greater Hazleton Health Alliance policy he believed compromised the privacy of his patients. One issue leading to the dispute was Polidora's belief that each patient should be allowed to recover at his or her own pace - and not within a time specified by outside agencies, like Medicare, that never see the patient."

I'd say in this case, he put patient care above all else.

Otherwise, consider he's been in practice for 30 years, he's an orthopedic surgeon and still has his own private practice.  Sounds to me as if he's starting to semi-retire but it's a good opportunity to vent about another government policy he sees as unfair.  Medicare isn't the only one who never sees the patient, insurance companies don't either.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Quote from: JeffM on May 03, 2010, 08:26:55 PM
Conservative TRAITOR.  He puts his politics over his practice..



Oh I get it, because he stands on his personal principles he is a TRAITOR. Your doucheness never ceases to amaze.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Gaspar

Doctors are still free people in this country.  At least for a little while longer. 
It is within his rights to refuse treatment to anyone, or dismiss any patient he chooses.

You cannot force a doctor to treat you anymore than you can force the neighbor kid to mow your lawn.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on May 04, 2010, 09:16:52 AM
Otherwise, consider he's been in practice for 30 years, he's an orthopedic surgeon and still has his own private practice.  Sounds to me as if he's starting to semi-retire but it's a good opportunity to vent about another government policy he sees as unfair.  Medicare isn't the only one who never sees the patient, insurance companies don't either.
Yes, his concerns, as reported are perfectly valid. Sadly, this incident is being reported as some sort of mark against health care reform, when in fact the entirety of our current health care system (aside from the two people a year who fully self pay) works the same way.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

JeffM

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Quote from: guido911 on May 04, 2010, 09:54:24 AM
Oh I get it, because he stands on his personal principles he is a TRAITOR. Your doucheness never ceases to amaze.

Your doucheness should have had you banned from this site a long time ago.
I'm unsurprised at your allegiance to the conservative elitist arrogant douchebag cause.... oooh, I'm sorry, I've resorted to name calling.... /snark.

Oh gee.  Who are you calling an "idiot" this week?
Oh yeah, Contessa Brewer....  ::)
Bring back the Tulsa Roughnecks!.... JeffM is now TulsaRufnex....  http://www.tulsaroughnecks.com

guido911

Quote from: JeffM on May 05, 2010, 08:15:24 AM
Your doucheness should have had you banned from this site a long time ago.
I'm unsurprised at your allegiance to the conservative elitist arrogant douchebag cause.... oooh, I'm sorry, I've resorted to name calling.... /snark.

Oh gee.  Who are you calling an "idiot" this week?
Oh yeah, Contessa Brewer....  ::)


What a snappy retort. 
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

rwarn17588


Conan71

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

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guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

heironymouspasparagus

Come on guys... you can be much nastier using much nicer words.
Just as violence is the last resort of the incompetent, profanity is the last resort of the intellectually incompetent.

But then again, I certainly enjoy a good old fashioned expletive undeleted from time to time....

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Conan71

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on May 12, 2010, 08:08:00 PM
Come on guys... you can be much nastier using much nicer words.
Just as violence is the last resort of the incompetent, profanity is the last resort of the intellectually incompetent.

But then again, I certainly enjoy a good old fashioned expletive undeleted from time to time....


go love yourself, then!
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan