Tom or Dewey - What's a Republican To Do?

[Wrinkle]

How is Perkins a Chamber Tool?

Need I say more than TYPRO?

[sgrizzle]

Need I say more than TYPRO?

I believe they claim 5,000 members. Pretty sure that doesn't mean we have 5,000 "chamber tools."

[Jitter Free]

Received this the other evening.

Dear STCC Supporter –

Last week, Tulsa mayoral candidate Oklahoma Senator Tom Adelson strengthened his stance on the South Tulsa bridge and orally informed the STCC that he is against the construction of the South Tulsa bridge (the "Bridge") period. 

As you will recall, before the primary election, Senator Adelson signed one of STCC's representation letters stating in short that (i) he would not support the Bridge connecting to E. 121st St. and S. Yale Ave. or any minor deviation from that location (but that he would be able to support the bridge connecting to E. 121st St. and S. Riverside Drive) and (ii) he would not support the construction of the Bridge until all of the infrastructure necessary to handle the increased traffic from the Bridge had been paid for and was constructed.  A copy of Senator Adelson's signed STCC representation letter is attached for your convenience.

Last week, Senator Adelson orally informed the STCC that if elected Mayor he will not support the construction of the Bridge period.  The two main reasons Senator Adelson gave were (i) Tulsa's tax base would be diminished to the benefit of Bixby and Jenks if the Bridge is constructed and (ii) Tulsa cannot afford to pay for the infrastructure costs necessary to accommodate the increased traffic from the Bridge.  With regard to these costs, Senator Adelson said that he has met with representatives from Tulsa's Public Works Department and that it will cost Tulsa around $100 million to improve the infrastructure necessary to accommodate the traffic from the Bridge.  Senator Adelson said he is unwilling to tax the citizens of Tulsa to cover these infrastructure costs.  Senator Adelson followed-up his oral conversation with a signed letter further explaining his position on the Bridge.  A copy of Senator Adelson's letter is attached for your convenience.

The STCC will do its best to keep you apprised of any new developments on the Bridge.

As always, we thank you for your support.

South Tulsa Citizens Coalition

[Wrinkle]

I believe they claim 5,000 members. Pretty sure that doesn't mean we have 5,000 "chamber tools."

How many of them are running for Mayor of Tulsa?
TYPRO is a Chamber-sponsored organization.
It's leadership is/was (initially, at least) hand-selected by the Chamber,
and is being groomed by the Chamber.

It's not hard to conclude running for Mayor (with little chance of winning) represents part of the grooming process and/or intentional placement of alternate platform for election strategy.

Obviously, Mr. Perkins has no prior experience which would otherwise qualify him to run a city the size of Tulsa. He's being coached.

[rwarn17588]

How many of them are running for Mayor of Tulsa?
TYPRO is a Chamber-sponsored organization.
It's leadership is/was (initially, at least) hand-selected by the Chamber,
and is being groomed by the Chamber.

It's not hard to conclude running for Mayor (with little chance of winning) represents part of the grooming process and/or intentional placement of alternate platform for election strategy.

Obviously, Mr. Perkins has no prior experience which would otherwise qualify him to run a city the size of Tulsa. He's being coached.

Here's yet another episode of "It's A Conspiracy!!!" by Wrinkle. 

[TURobY]

How many of them are running for Mayor of Tulsa?
TYPRO is a Chamber-sponsored organization.
It's leadership is/was (initially, at least) hand-selected by the Chamber,
and is being groomed by the Chamber.

It's not hard to conclude running for Mayor (with little chance of winning) represents part of the grooming process and/or intentional placement of alternate platform for election strategy.

Obviously, Mr. Perkins has no prior experience which would otherwise qualify him to run a city the size of Tulsa. He's being coached.

I'm a member of TYPros. If I ran for mayor, would you honestly think that I'd been groomed to run? Because I can honestly say that I've only ever met 3-4 staff members from the Chamber in my life.

[FOTD]

How many of them are running for Mayor of Tulsa?
TYPRO is a Chamber-sponsored organization.
It's leadership is/was (initially, at least) hand-selected by the Chamber,
and is being groomed by the Chamber.

It's not hard to conclude running for Mayor (with little chance of winning) represents part of the grooming process and/or intentional placement of alternate platform for election strategy.

Obviously, Mr. Perkins has no prior experience which would otherwise qualify him to run a city the size of Tulsa. He's being coached.

The Chamber might not be the coach....his Dad might be. There's an ego here waiting to explode on the scene. This is act 1. Every time the devil sees young Perkins he is past the point of inebriated. Don't assume anything when the bottle is the master.

[sgrizzle]

How many of them are running for Mayor of Tulsa?
TYPRO is a Chamber-sponsored organization.
It's leadership is/was (initially, at least) hand-selected by the Chamber,
and is being groomed by the Chamber.

It's not hard to conclude running for Mayor (with little chance of winning) represents part of the grooming process and/or intentional placement of alternate platform for election strategy.

Obviously, Mr. Perkins has no prior experience which would otherwise qualify him to run a city the size of Tulsa. He's being coached.

He's not part of the TYPros leadership, best I can find. He's not even mentioned ONCE on their website. He has more of a stance with the Tulsa Ballet.. is he a ballet tool?

C'mon Wrinkle, your innuendo and suspicions normally have more basis than this.

[sgrizzle]

The Chamber might not be the coach....his Dad might be. There's an ego here waiting to explode on the scene. This is act 1. Every time the devil sees young Perkins he is past the point of inebriated. Don't assume anything when the bottle is the master.

I talked to his dad quite extensively last week. This is all Mark's thing. His dad is generally a Bartlett supporter.

Can also say that unlike FOTD, Mark showed up for a TulsaNow happy hour and was quite sober.

[Wrinkle]

The Chamber might not be the coach....his Dad might be. There's an ego here waiting to explode on the scene. This is act 1. Every time the devil sees young Perkins he is past the point of inebriated. Don't assume anything when the bottle is the master.

You could be right. I did presume him to be in at least somewhat a leadership position with TYPRO. If that's not the case, it could be more as you describe.

No conspiracy here. I suggested only a strategy. Opening it to discussion has potentially revealed something here to date unknown. And, as they say, that's good.

[Wrinkle]

I'm a member of TYPros. If I ran for mayor, would you honestly think that I'd been groomed to run? Because I can honestly say that I've only ever met 3-4 staff members from the Chamber in my life.

No, I'd call that a typical TYPRO member.
There's probably less than 100 who are active in a meaningful way.

[RecycleMichael]

I know Mark Perkins and know his parents and his brother even better. I would disagree he is a tool of the chamber.

[rwarn17588]

Opening it to discussion has potentially revealed something here to date unknown.

And it's that Wrinkle at least jumps to conclusions or at worst sees conspiracies in everything.

[Wrinkle]

And it's that Wrinkle at least jumps to conclusions or at worst sees conspiracies in everything.

As I understand it, this is a Political Forum.
I was discussing a potential strategy. I see you aren't able to distinguish.
And, everything is absolute, right?

So, what do you think the purpose is of this forum?

[waterboy]

Ballet tool.  I know what that looks like.