Quik Trip - manipulating gas

[Who Cares]

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

What? The manual for my Sequoia plainly says to not use ethanol blends in it. Frickin great...I use QT gas almost exclusively.

Pretty sure my wife's Acura's handbook says the same thing.

Looks like I need to find a station that doesn't use a blend.

"Toyota allows the use of oxygenate blended gasoline where the oxygenate content is up to 10% ethanol...Toyota recommends the use of cleaner burning gasoline and appropriately blended reformulated gasoline. These types of gasoline provide excellent vehicle performance, reduce vehicle emissions, and improve air quality."

http://www.hawaii.gov/dbedt/info/energy/transportation/e10

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

What? The manual for my Sequoia plainly says to not use ethanol blends in it. Frickin great...I use QT gas almost exclusively.

Pretty sure my wife's Acura's handbook says the same thing.

Looks like I need to find a station that doesn't use a blend.

I believe they are talking about E85, not E10.

10% methanol added to the gasoline shouldn't harm any modern internal combustion engine.

E85 is a different matter entirely.

[Who Cares]

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

What? The manual for my Sequoia plainly says to not use ethanol blends in it. Frickin great...I use QT gas almost exclusively.

Pretty sure my wife's Acura's handbook says the same thing.

Looks like I need to find a station that doesn't use a blend.

Acura
"You may use gasoline containing up to 10 percent ethanol by volume."

http://www.hawaii.gov/dbedt/info/energy/transportation/e10

[Ibanez]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

What? The manual for my Sequoia plainly says to not use ethanol blends in it. Frickin great...I use QT gas almost exclusively.

Pretty sure my wife's Acura's handbook says the same thing.

Looks like I need to find a station that doesn't use a blend.

I believe they are talking about E85, not E10.

Could be since my Sequoia is a 2007, but the wife's Acura is a 2004 and E85 didn't even exist then did it?

[lsimmons]

Interesting. I didn't know most were blends. I was curious about my car since it's an RX8. Found this article surprising.

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/09/15/rotary-engine-below-sulev-standard-on-ethanol/

[cannon_fodder]

Also as a point:  Most studies indicate Ethanol has a 33-50% energy production.  Only a handful of studies suggest it is a net loss of energy in its production.  Contrary to what Jayhawk indicated, it is probably NOT a net loser of energy.

That said, the rabid support for it is a bit offensive.  Corn is an intensive crop that competes with its many other uses.  Switchgrass and other alternatives can be used that would use fallow ground and are less intensive.

[TheTed]

Sort of off topic, but I recently saw a gas station at 6th and Lewis (or maybe it was 6th and Utica) with a marquee that claimed their gas contained no 'ethynal'

[carltonplace]

Ethynal and Methanol are both bad for your car and for the environment.

[RecycleMichael]

Gasoline went up ten cents this morning and will probably go up another ten cents again tonight.

[cannon_fodder]

Well that's good!  It probably also had no KJHSJYG YIUG.  [}:)]

[Johnboy976]

Doesn't QT get their gas from another company.

[lsimmons]

http://www.quiktrip.com/aboutqt/faqs.asp

[mdunn]

Quick Trip got us with the dollar sandwiches!!!
Its in the food the Gas..and the ICE CUBES!

[cannon_fodder]

quote:There have recently been a number of questions raised about whether QuikTrip buys gasoline from Middle Eastern or South American countries. We do not purchase any crude oil or have any influence on the purchasing decisions made by the companies who own the refineries.

As an independent marketer, we do not operate any pipelines or terminals; we are strictly a retailer of quality motor fuels and convenience items to consumers in our markets.

All gasoline marketers in the United States get their gasoline from various terminals in their cities. This gasoline has been mixed in pipelines with gasoline from a number of refineries. Although we may purchase our gasoline from a specific refiner, the gasoline we actually pull out of the pipeline is really generic. Even retail outlets of major oil companies end up drawing their gasoline out of the same pipeline as everyone else.

Surprisingly, they tell it like it is.  NO idea where their gas *really* comes from, such is the nature of the business.

[TeeDub]

That's great that they don't know where their gas comes from...   But that doesn't change the fact that they add 10% ethanol which does 2 things to help business:

1.  Cuts their price per gallon.
2.  Cuts your fuel economy.


And no, not just trying to bash on QT, but they should at least tell people so they can make up their own minds about whether they want to help subsidize ADM or big oil.