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Started by patric, March 03, 2024, 11:10:06 AM

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swake

Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on June 07, 2025, 01:59:31 PM


https://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/mesa/meta-boasts-companys-dedication-to-community-as-mesa-data-center-goes-online

While there will be good paying construction jobs in the beginning, there will most likely only be ~200 permanent jobs to maintain the servers and the facility over two or three 24/7 shifts.

Most of the people working there will make about $25.00/hour according to InDeed.com website

https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Serverfarm/salaries/Data-Center-Technician?from=acme-salaries-v2

The Meta data center is the one going in east of Tulsa off of US-412. With Google in Pryor, what's the north Tulsa DC going to be? Apple? Amazon? The site isn't far from Amazon's cluster of warehouses by the airport.
Pitter-patter, let's get at 'er

dbacksfan 2.0

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Quote from: swake on June 07, 2025, 04:58:19 PMThe Meta data center is the one going in east of Tulsa off of US-412. With Google in Pryor, what's the north Tulsa DC going to be? Apple? Amazon? The site isn't far from Amazon's cluster of warehouses by the airport.

Got them backwards. As a guess I would go with Amazon.

Although Apple is making a big play with their joint venture with TSMC in Arizona so Apple can produce their own chips in the US.

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/apple-plans-new-ai-server-factory-as-part-of-500bn-us-manufacturing-push/#:~:text=DCD%20reported%20in%20December%20that,of%20dollars%E2%80%9D%20in%20the%20US.

patric

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — The NAACP filed an intent to sue Elon Musk's artificial intelligence company xAI on Tuesday over concerns about air pollution generated by a supercomputer located near predominantly Black communities.

The xAI data center began operating gas turbines last year, emitting air pollution, without first applying for a permit under an exemption that allowed them to do so for 364 days. The permit application now being considered by the Shelby County Health Department calls for the use of 15 turbines, though the Southern Environmental Law Center says there are as many as 35 turbines located at the sprawling facility.

The Southern Environmental Law Center, among others, says the supercomputer is stressing the power grid, and that the gas-powered turbines emit smog and carbon dioxide, pollutants that cause lung irritation such as nitrogen oxides, and the carcinogen formaldehyde, experts say.

The SELC has claimed the use of the turbines violates the Clean Air Act and notes that residents who live near the xAI facility already face cancer risks at four times the national average.

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

dbacksfan 2.0

From CNN, way down in the article:

QuoteAerial images taken by the Southern Environmental Law Center and South Wings, an organization of volunteer pilots, in March showed xAI had 35 turbines at the facility.

These can generate a total of 420 megawatts, equivalent to a "medium- to large-sized power plant," said Patrick Anderson, a senior attorney at SELC. They can produce an up to 2,000 tons of nitrogen oxide pollution every year, which would make xAI one of the biggest sources in the county, according to SELC calculations.

Aerial pictures taken in April, this time with a thermal imaging camera, showed 33 turbines were producing heat, suggesting they were operating, Anderson told CNN.

What has inflamed the community further is xAI's lack of air permits.

It appears the company relied on a loophole which allows temporary turbines in one location for less than a year to operate without a permit.

The SELC, however, argues xAI's turbines don't fall within a permit exemption because of their size and the pollution they produce. "Our position is (xAI is) without a permit, they should not be operating," Anderson said.

In January, months after starting operations, xAI applied to the Shelby County Health Department for permits for 15 turbines. A health department spokesperson told CNN the application was currently under review and all community feedback would be "carefully considered."

Twelve of the remaining 20 turbines were removed in May, and the rest will go in the future, said Mayor Young, although the timeline is unclear.

The Greater Memphis Chamber of Commerce said the turbines for which permits have been requested "will achieve industry-leading emission standards" once they are equipped with pollution reduction technologies.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/19/climate/xai-musk-memphis-turbines-pollution#openweb-convo

Ironic that Musk named the facility Colossus, which was also the name of a movie from the early 70's about a super computer built by the US government that found a linked up with a similar Soviet super computer that, spoiler alert, when combined the two took over the world.

Colossus: The Forbin Project

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus:_The_Forbin_Project