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Started by zstyles, December 21, 2011, 09:21:57 AM

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Townsend

Per TW FB post:

QuoteWASHINGTON – A Broken Arrow property has not been termed eligible for Indian gaming at this time, a top federal official assured Rep. John Sullivan and Sen. Tom Coburn...

Not sure it it continues with "yet".

Conan71

Someone forgot to tell those guys on the earth movers.
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patric

Quote from: Conan71 on January 20, 2012, 10:30:03 AM
Someone forgot to tell those guys on the earth movers.

Maybe that'$ not the only thing moving right now.

Sofar everyone in authority is saying everything EXCEPT that it wont happen.
Not Sullivan, not Tiger, not the Broken Arrow city haul.

It's like a cat playing with a wounded mouse.  Wonder how that will end.
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Conan71

Quote from: patric on January 20, 2012, 09:38:05 PM
Maybe that'$ not the only thing moving right now.

Sofar everyone in authority is saying everything EXCEPT that it wont happen.
Not Sullivan, not Tiger, not the Broken Arrow city haul.

It's like a cat playing with a wounded mouse.  Wonder how that will end.

$o what exactly are you $aying?
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DTowner

Neither BA nor Oklahoma have a say.  The NIGC will have the final say (and then probably a federal court) and it is getting lots of pressure from all sides.

patric

"The Kialegee has attempted to set up land for gaming three times in Georgia and also in Texas, and have been unsuccessful."

How and why their casinos failed in other states might be interesting to know.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

Townsend

Quote from: patric on January 29, 2012, 04:37:38 PM
"The Kialegee has attempted to set up land for gaming three times in Georgia and also in Texas, and have been unsuccessful."

How and why their casinos failed in other states might be interesting to know.

Well we know if there's one ounce of fetus mixed into it they have little chance in Oklahoma.

DolfanBob

A lady came by my home on Saturday with a petition. I had no problem signing it and took it into the house for the little lady to sign and low and behold, she said there is no way she would sign it.....wait, what ?
Apparently I havent been paying attention to her stand on this matter.
She started telling me why, blah, blah, blah.....I really wasnt listening.  ;D
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Hoss

Quote from: DolfanBob on January 30, 2012, 08:37:38 AM
A lady came by my home on Saturday with a petition. I had no problem signing it and took it into the house for the little lady to sign and low and behold, she said there is no way she would sign it.....wait, what ?
Apparently I havent been paying attention to her stand on this matter.
She started telling me why, blah, blah, blah.....I really wasnt listening.  ;D

Yep, I remember being married.  Probably why I'm still not.  And happily so.   ;D

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: DolfanBob on January 30, 2012, 08:37:38 AM
A lady came by my home on Saturday with a petition. I had no problem signing it and took it into the house for the little lady to sign and low and behold, she said there is no way she would sign it.....wait, what ?
Apparently I havent been paying attention to her stand on this matter.
She started telling me why, blah, blah, blah.....I really wasnt listening.  ;D

Short timer alert!

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zstyles

Quote from: patric on January 29, 2012, 04:37:38 PM
"The Kialegee has attempted to set up land for gaming three times in Georgia and also in Texas, and have been unsuccessful."

How and why their casinos failed in other states might be interesting to know.

sooooo they just decided this time..start building it and see if they can stop us...?? how did texas and georgia stop them? I honestly don't care either way ...I live about 2 miles away, I would never go there myself but its like a smoke shop type of setup...its really not going to be that big of a deal in reality...

Townsend

Per the TW FB post:

QuoteGovernor supports Kialegee lawsuit, wants changes to compact law | Tulsa World
www.tulsaworld.com

OKLAHOMA CITY - Gov. Mary Fallin said Wednesday that she supports of the state's lawsuit that is attempting to stop construction of an Indian casino in Broken Arrow

It's hard to take sides when you don't trust either one.

Teatownclown

Baloney. You can't bypass the constitution no matter how far right you are or how much you must pander to those BA creeps.


Property rights....ironically, they are what we stole from this Indian Nation in the first place.

Conan71

Quote from: Teatownclown on February 08, 2012, 03:44:06 PM
Baloney. You can't bypass the constitution no matter how far right you are or how much you must pander to those BA creeps.


Property rights....ironically, they are what we stole from this Indian Nation in the first place.

Nah, we just made sort of a land swap.  ::)

The Kialegee Tribal Town doesn't have a jurisdictional authority in the Broken Arrow area and never was in the area until this land deal came about.  It seems incongruous to me that a tribal town which is primarily in the Holdenville/Wewoka/Weleetka/Wetumka area (doing some checking, their "jurisdictional area falls into McIntosh, Hughes, and Okfuskee counties) can simply make a lease deal with a Creek member who has an allotment and construct a casino wherever they see fit.   

Apparently, they were shut down on trying essentially the same thing in Georgia last year.  I'd heard that on the radio the other day and can't source a print article to read more into it. 

Aside from that, there's still a question as to whether or not the tribe has gotten approval from the Indian Gaming Commission in the first place.

I have no problem with a tribe going about this legally, but it sounds like they are still pretty far out of bounds.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

patric

The plan to bring land-based gaming to Georgia, where it is prohibited, didn't sit well with some legislators.

The Brunswick News reported Jan. 16 that Senate Bill 62 was introduced last year that would make it more difficult to establish sovereign lands in Georgia.


http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=685&articleid=20120211_11_A1_CUTLIN288921
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum