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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2023, 09:35:25 pm »


Sounds about right.

But there was the no representation thing.  Or so I've been taught.



And when has there ever been representation?   Really.

The lack-of-supreme court actually admitted to and institutionalized that lack of representation when it declared corporations are actual people.   That has been the unspoken reality for much longer, but they came out and said it explicitly.

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Just had a thought....the supreme court is to the judiciary as Mazzio's Supreme Pizza is to pizza!  Not.  Supreme or pizza....


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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2023, 09:40:44 pm »

Just had a thought....the supreme court is to the judiciary as Mazzio's Supreme Pizza is to pizza!  Not.  Supreme or pizza....

It's been a while since I had pizza.  Pizza gives me acid reflux and I'd rather skip pizza than take medicine. One piece of pizza is OK but who can eat only one piece?

Surprisingly, hot chile peppers do not bother me.  I put habaneros in my weekend scrambled eggs.  I think it's the acid in the tomato sauce on pizza and or the fat from the toppings I like that gets to me.
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2023, 08:07:14 pm »

It's been a while since I had pizza.  Pizza gives me acid reflux and I'd rather skip pizza than take medicine. One piece of pizza is OK but who can eat only one piece?

Surprisingly, hot chile peppers do not bother me.  I put habaneros in my weekend scrambled eggs.  I think it's the acid in the tomato sauce on pizza and or the fat from the toppings I like that gets to me.


Chili's are good for digestion!   Lots of people says it  bothers them but most of the time it is something else with the peppers.  SWMBO uses tabasco on a lot of stuff, but especially eggs/omelets!


Pepperoni will rip the guts out of a couple close family.  Same for Italian sausage.  Same happens to me if I eat those, so I stick with hamburger or mushroom or just cheese.  Not sure any of the local places put enough sauce on to reach the trigger threshold for reflux for us.


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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2023, 12:40:21 pm »

                         Updates on proposed new Oklahoma City arena:

    

Oklahoma City Mayor David Holt delivers '2023 State of the City Address, July 20, 2023.'

Excerpts: Mayor David Holt said Thursday voters may be asked later this year to extend the MAPS 4 Initiative temporary sales tax to help pay for a new arena for the Oklahoma City Thunder.

The MAPS 4 penny sales tax is set to expire in 2028.


Holt used his annual State of the City address to discuss the possible election and new arena. MAPS 4 Initiative has collected more than $390 million in a little over three years, including during the pandemic. Holt said if the city wanted to build the arena before the money comes in, it could consider taking out a line of credit. The city has an excellent debt rating, having received triple-A bond ratings from Moody’s and S& P in 2023 for the 15th year in a row.

About $70 million in MAPS 4 funds that were initially earmarked for Paycom Center will serve to supplement that funding. And, Holt said, Thunder ownership will for the first time in city history make a “significant financial contribution” to the new arena, but he wouldn’t say what that contribution will be.

Details still being worked out include arena cost and terms of the lease agreement, Holt said. He expects to bring an agreement forward by the end of the summer, which he defined as September 22, which would need a simple majority approval from the city council. A public sales tax election would require a majority of all votes cast.

Quote of the day:

“We will secure this team for such a span of time that I can tell you today that a superstar who will play for our city in this arena, in the next lease term, isn’t even born yet,” Holt said. “And yet, Sam Presti is probably already holding the draft pick to get him.”

It was one year ago that the mayor first publicly addressed the idea that Oklahoma City may need to replace the 21-year-old Paycom arena to stay competitive and keep the Thunder in OKC.

Holt: New arena would exceed expectations:

Holt pressed the issue even harder Thursday, reminding listeners of Paycom’s place as the smallest and second-cheapest arena in the NBA. It also sits right at the average arena age, and a new arena will take years to open if planning began today, he said.

A new arena would “exceed anything our residents have ever experienced,” Holt said. It also will be designed for basketball, unlike Paycom.

Now that put a dagger in the hearts of those fans expecting a multipurpose arena built to accommodate 'Ice hockey' as well as NBA basketball.

It would be much larger, with more seats on the lower bowl and better sight lines all around, Holt said.

Councilman Todd Stone, who represents Ward 4, said it’s “amazing” the city could build a new arena without raising the current tax rate.

The cost of modern NBA arenas:

     San Francisco’s Chase Center at a cost of $1.4 billion
     Milwaukee’s Fiserv Forum cost $524 million (Buck's share $174 million)
     Detroit's Little Caesars Arena $863 million
     Sacramento Golden 1 Center (2016) $558 million.
     The new Los Angeles Clippers arena will open next year and cost $2 billion.
     Philadelphia 76ers announced plans for an arena expected to cost $1.3 billion.



     “Our city just has to do what great cities do. We have to invest in ourselves.”--Mayor David Holt


New State Fair Coliseum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdzR0Ja2sKg

    
     Oklahoma City leaders broke ground on a new coliseum at the OKC Fairgrounds making it the first recipient of MAPS 4 dollars to begin construction on a
     brand-new building.

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« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2023, 06:31:20 pm »

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     This link posted on OKCTalk.com

      By chestercheetah - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uezIsYZUxS4

      OKCTalk.com [url][https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=47184&page=30&p=1239170#post1239170/url]

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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2023, 12:07:05 pm »

OKCTalk.com news reported there is a new survey being circulated to some OKC residents by an anonymous source but almost certainly backed by the Chamber of Commerce.

     Based on the questions, it seems to pretty clearly lay out the arena plan which is to be presented to the public in final form by the end of the summer.

     There were more 'questions' but they were mainly laying the groundwork with the main points Holt has made in his speeches.

     Adding up the numbers: $891 million in sales tax + $70 million in MAPS 4 money + $75 million from owners = $1.036 billion. I strongly suspect this does not   
     include the cost of the property, assuming the Cox Center will be used.

     New survey suggests $1 billion for new arena 

          All the following were framed in the: would this cause you to vote for the measure?

               Definitely Yes
               Probably Yes
               Probably No
               Definitely No
               No effect



               1.  This sales tax will raise 891 million over six years to fund the arena.

               2.  Unlike MAPS, the city will borrow the money so it can start the arena quickly and then pay back the loan with tax revenue.

               3.  The ownership group is donating $75 million toward the arena even though the city will own it.

                With passage the Thunder will agree to a 25- year
                lease in the new building, securing the team in OKC
                for another generation.


Link to OKCTalk.com https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=977-New-survey-suggests-1-billion-for-new-arena






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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2023, 07:53:32 am »


Which NBA teams have the most international fans?:  https://kfor.com/news/local/which-nba-teams-have-the-most-international-fans/


       Top 10 NBA teams with the largest international fanbases:  
 
       1.   Brooklyn Nets: 52.80%
       2.   Golden State Warriors: 52.30%
       3.   Los Angeles Lakers: 52.00%
       4.   Minnesota Timberwolves: 51.40%
       5.   Los Angeles Clippers: 49.70%
       6.   Toronto Raptors: 49.70%
       7.   Oklahoma City Thunder: 49.20%
       8.   Boston Celtics: 49.16%
       9.   Milwaukee Bucks: 48.90%
     10.   Denver Nuggets: 47.90%
      
Officials say Brazil is the most common country to appear among the international fanbases of the
NBA, showing up 7 times as a team’s largest international fanbase. Canada is close behind in
second place showing up 5 times on the list, while Australia places third with 4 appearances on
the list.

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« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2023, 09:27:04 am »


Thunder Announces 2023-24 Regular Season Schedule:  https://www.nba.com/thunder/news/release-schedule-230817


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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2023, 05:44:48 pm »


          Mayor Holt announces plan to build new arena without raising taxes,
     includes commitment by the Thunder to play in new arena
     beyond 2050 if voters approve.


          Link to the story:  https://www.okc.gov/Home/Components/News/News/4564/18?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

       Project minimum cost:  $900 milllion
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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2023, 10:46:34 am »



                               

                              New OKC Thunder Arena *CONFIRMED* Opening in 2029

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWtAjUBlco8&t=45s


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