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« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2018, 11:48:13 am »

I was also thinking that the stadium would include a building fronting a street that includes retail and restaurant space open year around (think how Greenwood businesses were sort of incorporated into the ballpark) and the field could be open to the public when not in use for a formal event.  But yeah, should have a staging area and a commitment to find ways to use it for things other than soccer games to keep it active year around.

Agreed! If it were to be in the parking lot district, you essentially have a clean slate to create something really cool that could inform future development. As an architect, this would be the coolest project to tackle - One of the most difficult things is to create density from basically nothing. It's fragile too because you can't just force new context to exist, it has to listen and speak to the city.
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« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2018, 09:48:50 pm »


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Despite the land acquisition setback, Funk Jr.'s stadium timeline remains on-track. The new location for the stadium, when finalized, will not have the originally planned real estate and commercial developments. The PCOM site also had a complicated clearing and cleanup process, which would have taken up to two years before building could begin.

The Energy also recognizes that Taft Stadium is not viable long-term because it does not meet United States Soccer Federation standards. Taft is only 67 yards wide, three yards short of the minimum USSF standard. Funk Jr. confirmed that the club is unable to host U.S. Open Cup games at Taft because the pitch is too narrow.--Excerpts: Oklahoman, July 8, 2017

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« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2018, 10:55:01 am »

From my office I can see them installing the sinking mound.  My iphone doesn't take good enough pics to make it worthwhile to post.  But it seems to be going quickly.
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« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2018, 08:06:40 am »

Athletic are making an announcement on Thursday, including a different venue this season.  Any speculation or insight?
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« Reply #49 on: February 15, 2018, 02:32:18 pm »

Holy cow, I'm an oracle.  I mentioned the sinking mound for OneOk and then they do it.  In another thread I suggested Veterans Park for the Athletic, and today they announce they'll be playing their games there this season.  I think its a great move!  I'll be buying tickets for sure!
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« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2018, 10:22:49 am »

https://twitter.com/BradLundokc/status/1008530653737050117

Top five markets for Thursday's WC opener:

1. Tulsa - 3.0
2. Austin - 2.6
3. Birmingham - 2.4
4. San Francisco - 2.4
5. New Orleans - 2.3

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« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2018, 10:37:08 am »

https://twitter.com/BradLundokc/status/1008530653737050117

Top five markets for Thursday's WC opener:

1. Tulsa - 3.0
2. Austin - 2.6
3. Birmingham - 2.4
4. San Francisco - 2.4
5. New Orleans - 2.3

5:46 PM - 16 Jun 2018

Where is the link to the raw data on this?   I need to understand the numbers better.
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« Reply #52 on: June 18, 2018, 11:07:44 am »

Below is not a detailed statement of methodology per se, but I believe the numbers will always skew a bit in favor of eastern standard time based on morning times these matches are played.
Also, Tulsa may have a skewed advantage in older fans who watch on network tv versus streaming.
Still.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/tv/tv-ratings-down-for-world-cup-opener/2018/06/15/0c4766a6-70db-11e8-b4d8-eaf78d4c544c_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.8b9abd07e6fd
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« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2018, 11:16:45 am »

I have paid monthly dues for now eight plus years for two kids to play soccer. They have played for TSC, Blitz, Nationals, and WSA. The overwhelming majority of kids who play competitive soccer live in south Tulsa, Jenks, Bixby, or Broken Arrow.

Why do we only consider downtown locations for a new stadium?

There are struggling shopping centers on two corners of 71st and Memorial. The area is packed with everything needed for a stadium to work. Hotels, transit, parking, and restaurants to get money out of fans before and after games.

Tell me why this isn't a better choice for a soccer stadium than downtown.

Baseball belongs downtown while soccer belongs in the burbs?
Sure, why not.  Southeast Tulsa sounds like a great place to take a lousy, uncompetitive USL franchise.
And while we're at it, take the Roughnecks out of your name, please.
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« Reply #54 on: June 18, 2018, 11:29:01 am »

Baseball belongs downtown while soccer belongs in the burbs?
Sure, why not.  Southeast Tulsa sounds like a great place to take a lousy, uncompetitive USL franchise.
And while we're at it, take the Roughnecks out of your name, please.



Really?  Not sure how you got that out of what he said (long ago), but it does seem like soccer would draw just as well out east as it would downtown.  Or maybe even closer in at the fairgrounds.  Downtown is fine, but are you sure it would hurt it not to be there??


As for starting times - affecting viewership, how much of a hit did it take by not having the US team in the game?   Almost like being a Green Bay fan when the Eagles and Patriots are playing in the Superbowl...


Edit; I would love to have one of those Nielsen meters - but I am afraid my watching patterns would break their models...!
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« Reply #55 on: June 18, 2018, 11:44:56 am »


Really?  Not sure how you got that out of what he said (long ago), but it does seem like soccer would draw just as well out east as it would downtown.  Or maybe even closer in at the fairgrounds.  Downtown is fine, but are you sure it would hurt it not to be there??


As for starting times - affecting viewership, how much of a hit did it take by not having the US team in the game?   Almost like being a Green Bay fan when the Eagles and Patriots are playing in the Superbowl...


Edit; I would love to have one of those Nielsen meters - but I am afraid my watching patterns would break their models...!


When you're losing home matches to the tune of 0-5, 1-5 and 0-3, it literally doesn't really matter where you play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=169&v=vAFsvu9dJ5s

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« Reply #56 on: June 18, 2018, 12:05:49 pm »

When you're losing home matches to the tune of 0-5, 1-5 and 0-3, it literally doesn't really matter where you play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=169&v=vAFsvu9dJ5s



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« Reply #57 on: June 18, 2018, 12:12:33 pm »

When you're losing home matches to the tune of 0-5, 1-5 and 0-3, it literally doesn't really matter where you play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=169&v=vAFsvu9dJ5s




Phoenix is pretty much that all over...dry and dusty.


Tulsa doesn't seem to be doing too great...is that their scores?   So, Fairgrounds it is!!   Or Alsuma!


Edit;  don't take it too hard - if the market were here to support them better than it does now, stadiums would happen.   They always do...  It is what it is for now, and maybe will get better, but maybe not.  It's all about the foosball here...





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