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« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2012, 01:56:13 pm »

Great pics and I love the building having been in it when it was Globe but...the pic is from 1914 and it was already built, not 1917. I know, details, details..... Cheesy

I'd trust the Tulsa County Property Assessor more than an undated photo from the BFC. The Assessor lists it as being built in 1917.

The Assessor also lists the building's name in one of its photos... The Excalibur Building.

To those who say there's nothing special about this building, you're wrong. Just look up. It's got some great deco details, and it's one of the oldest buildings in downtown. It could be used for anything, and is a great location for residential. Plus, it's got an awesome name. Aside from that, it's valuable because it is part of the existing urban fabric and street wall, and it's prime for redevelopment.

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« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2012, 11:18:03 am »

I'd trust the Tulsa County Property Assessor more than an undated photo from the BFC. The Assessor lists it as being built in 1917.

The Assessor also lists the building's name in one of its photos... The Excalibur Building.

To those who say there's nothing special about this building, you're wrong. Just look up. It's got some great deco details, and it's one of the oldest buildings in downtown. It could be used for anything, and is a great location for residential. Plus, it's got an awesome name. Aside from that, it's valuable because it is part of the existing urban fabric and street wall, and it's prime for redevelopment.



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« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2012, 12:49:53 pm »

I'd trust the Tulsa County Property Assessor more than an undated photo from the BFC. The Assessor lists it as being built in 1917.

FWIW, while researching my home the Tulsa Preservation Commission said to never trust the Assessor's date.
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« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2012, 01:48:25 pm »

FWIW, while researching my home the Tulsa Preservation Commission said to never trust the Assessor's date.

Interesting... Who can we trust?
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« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2012, 02:25:21 pm »

Great pics and I love the building having been in it when it was Globe but...the pic is from 1914 and it was already built, not 1917. I know, details, details..... Cheesy

The picture was taken in 1918.  I can tell from the pixels
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« Reply #50 on: May 17, 2012, 02:51:08 pm »

Interesting... Who can we trust?

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« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2012, 03:10:39 pm »

A buddy of mine, dependable for this kind of information, is unable to find anything out about the TW wanting to demolish the building.

I've also contacted someone with the World and have not heard back about it.

So I got bupkis.
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« Reply #52 on: May 17, 2012, 05:48:43 pm »

The picture was taken in 1918.  I can tell from the pixels

Micro writing on the pixels?
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« Reply #53 on: May 17, 2012, 06:47:20 pm »

The "Arby's building" was originally Palace Clothiers.  It was built in 1917 as a 5-story building, and then later enlarged to 9 stories...

Here is a photo of the original 5-story building:
http://cdm15020.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15020coll1/id/204/rec/5



And here it is in 1925...
http://cdm15020.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15020coll1/id/192/rec/15


Edited: Well, darn, can't get the photos to appear here.  I think I got the links right, though.

Note the trolley tracks in the earlier picture and that they were gone by the second picture.

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« Reply #54 on: May 17, 2012, 08:36:09 pm »

This Land has a story about our rumor.  Lorton says its not going to be demolished.
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« Reply #55 on: May 17, 2012, 09:45:44 pm »

The picture was taken in 1918.  I can tell from the pixels


If the pixels are played backwards, are there satanic messages?

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« Reply #56 on: May 18, 2012, 06:30:15 am »

Well that's fantastic news.  

If any of them happen to read this thread.... how bout putting a really tall and wide simple loggia structure along that blank wall facing main street closest to the Hyatt.  The sidewalk is really wide there.  Would make the perfect place for some sort of farmers and artists market and would greatly help rebuild some pedestrian friendly nature along Main and make that area look a gazillion times better, offer some shade for pedestrians on hot days and protection from the rain, etc.   I will even design it (did some architectural design and engineering back in my Vo-Tech days before I went into the military) and chip in to help build it.  Grin
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« Reply #57 on: May 18, 2012, 08:39:39 am »

FWIW, while researching my home the Tulsa Preservation Commission said to never trust the Assessor's date.

Its hard to trust either of them for accurate dates. A home in my neighborhood is a good example. The Assessor dates it as 1919 yet a phone book at the library shows a resident, a phone number and an occupation two years earlier.
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« Reply #58 on: May 18, 2012, 09:00:35 am »

This Land has a story about our rumor.  Lorton says its not going to be demolished.

Wait, you mean we spent 4 pages ranting about a rumor that's not true?
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« Reply #59 on: May 18, 2012, 09:28:08 am »

Wait, you mean we spent 4 pages ranting about a rumor that's not true?

See, TN has influence Wink
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