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Here are the 15 cities that ranked the worst: 15. Oklahoma City, Okla. Population: 551,789 Total fatality rate per 100,000 population: 13.41 Total fatalities: 74 Percentage of fatalities that were pedestrians: 13.5 14. Birmingham, Ala. Population: 228,798 Total fatality rate per 100,000 population: 13.55 Total fatalities: 31 Percentage of fatalities that were pedestrians: 15.2 13. Tulsa, Okla. Population: 385,635 Total fatality rate per 100,000 population: 14.00 Total fatalities: 54 Percentage of fatalities that were pedestrians: 18.5 http://autos.yahoo.com/news/15-dangerous-cities-for-driving.html
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2011, 03:21:50 pm » |
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Is this any surprise to anyone living and driving in Tulsa?
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 03:55:23 pm » |
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Is this any surprise to anyone living and driving in Tulsa?
Nope! We are too polite to use our horns.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 04:23:00 pm » |
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81st Street eastbound from Riverside is like a racetrack to see who can pass who at the traffic lights because of the merging lanes. In-between lights, they tailgate you as punishment for not letting them pass until the next traffic light.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 08:12:30 pm » |
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In-between lights, they tailgate you as punishment for not letting them pass until the next traffic light.
How slow are you driving?
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 10:55:44 pm » |
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How slow are you driving?
40mph..........good point. That's too slow.
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2011, 05:55:16 am » |
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40mph..........good point. That's too slow.
Depends on where you are, which lane you are in, and if it takes you a half mile to get up to that speed. I have followed traffic which was not racing to the next red traffic light only to have the light turn green then red again. That won't usually happen downtown where the lights are closely spaced.
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2011, 06:39:09 am » |
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81st Street eastbound from Riverside is like a racetrack to see who can pass who at the traffic lights because of the merging lanes. In-between lights, they tailgate you as punishment for not letting them pass until the next traffic light.
Where do the lanes merge? East side of Harvard?
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2011, 11:47:21 am » |
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That's just it, there are sooo many lane merges, construction, wheel-jarring bumps unexpectedly along the way... this city's street department is just something else! No wonder drivers are getting impatient with each other.
Oh, I remember the Tulsa World, an editorial a few weeks ago, that said in the city's defense, 90% of the streets in Tulsa were not having any repairs made to them. Now there's a fine example of how you can say anything with statistics. Sure, 90% of our streets are going without repair, because of the sheer number of neighborhood streets. But out of all of Tulsa's main arteries (41st, 31st, Utica, Garnett, etc.) what percentage of those are having work done to them, all at the same time (and for a long long time, too). It's so very frustrating. I just think we as taxpayers deserve so much better.
I had an incident with another city department recently that was, well, it was just literally astonishing, the level of incompetency that was shown. But even more notable is the waste of taxpayer funds it involved. And this is just little ol' me... I wonder how much more incompetency and waste is multiplied all over the city. Sad. : (
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2011, 12:14:00 pm » |
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That's just it, there are sooo many lane merges, construction, wheel-jarring bumps unexpectedly along the way... this city's street department is just something else! No wonder drivers are getting impatient with each other.
Oh, I remember the Tulsa World, an editorial a few weeks ago, that said in the city's defense, 90% of the streets in Tulsa were not having any repairs made to them. Now there's a fine example of how you can say anything with statistics. Sure, 90% of our streets are going without repair, because of the sheer number of neighborhood streets. But out of all of Tulsa's main arteries (41st, 31st, Utica, Garnett, etc.) what percentage of those are having work done to them, all at the same time (and for a long long time, too). It's so very frustrating. I just think we as taxpayers deserve so much better.
I had an incident with another city department recently that was, well, it was just literally astonishing, the level of incompetency that was shown. But even more notable is the waste of taxpayer funds it involved. And this is just little ol' me... I wonder how much more incompetency and waste is multiplied all over the city. Sad. : (
..just my $0.02 worth
Did you expect you weren't to be inconvenienced while the city does upgrades to its woefully inadequate infrastructure? It amuses me. Usually the very same people complaining about the construction work are those same people who complain about how crappy our roads are. And while I'm not saying you do this, I know many that do. Do you think there's not an inconvenience while we wait? I remember when they were six-laning the BA from I-44 to BA and how much of a pain that was. When it got finished I remember how people lauded the expressway. These were likely also the same people who put a pox on the contractors doing the road construction. Sure, it's a pain, but look what happens in the long run.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2011, 12:19:39 pm » |
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We finally beat OKC though. We're 13th, those grandma's are 15!
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2011, 02:31:35 pm » |
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Where do the lanes merge? East side of Harvard?
Just east of Lewis, IIRC. I thought the speed limit was actually 45 down there, but it's been quite a while since I've been in that particular area. Edit: No, it's Harvard now. I forgot about the reconstruction between Lewis and Harvard some years back.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2011, 09:42:08 am » |
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Did you expect you weren't to be inconvenienced while the city does upgrades to its woefully inadequate infrastructure? It amuses me. Usually the very same people complaining about the construction work are those same people who complain about how crappy our roads are. And while I'm not saying you do this, I know many that do. Do you think there's not an inconvenience while we wait? I remember when they were six-laning the BA from I-44 to BA and how much of a pain that was. When it got finished I remember how people lauded the expressway. These were likely also the same people who put a pox on the contractors doing the road construction. Sure, it's a pain, but look what happens in the long run.
I can't think of any length of time since I've been driving in Tulsa (around 92) that 44 hasn't been under construction. It's things like that that really give the perception that everything is constantly under construction.
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2011, 11:21:53 am » |
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I can't think of any length of time since I've been driving in Tulsa (around 92) that 44 hasn't been under construction. It's things like that that really give the perception that everything is constantly under construction.
By '92 I think the BA had been under widening construction for 5 or 7 years.
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2011, 01:14:08 pm » |
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I wonder why so many FL cities made the grade? Most of them are retirement areas for the elderly. It just makes me wonder if advanced age drivers plays a part in driving safety.
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