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« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2009, 04:30:38 pm »

though the issues of separating mentally from an addiction is a whole other can of worms.

Which is why I don't and will not own a Wii.  A sweet, sweet Nintendo Wii.
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« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2009, 05:30:22 pm »

Don't buy the argument that marijuana is needed for some medical cases, as, marinol, which is a marijuana alternative for medical reasons, works the same.  Those that argue against marinol are only pissed that you don't get high when you use it.

I'm on the fence for legalizing marijuana.  Although, there are even people within DEA who say marijuana will be legal within the next couple of years.

Ultimately, it will come down to a state issue, and Oklahoma will be last to legalize it (can you say tattoo?)
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« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2009, 05:46:16 pm »

Don't buy the argument that marijuana is needed for some medical cases, as, marinol, which is a marijuana alternative for medical reasons, works the same.  Those that argue against marinol are only pissed that you don't get high when you use it.

I'm on the fence for legalizing marijuana.  Although, there are even people within DEA who say marijuana will be legal within the next couple of years.

Ultimately, it will come down to a state issue, and Oklahoma will be last to legalize it (can you say tattoo?)

I'd think that since it's one of the largest cash crops in Oklahoma, OK might be smart enough to get on board with it early (can you say tax stamps?).
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« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2009, 11:04:31 pm »

Don't buy the argument that marijuana is needed for some medical cases, as, marinol, which is a marijuana alternative for medical reasons, works the same.  Those that argue against marinol are only pissed that you don't get high when you use it.

I'm on the fence for legalizing marijuana.  Although, there are even people within DEA who say marijuana will be legal within the next couple of years.

Ultimately, it will come down to a state issue, and Oklahoma will be last to legalize it (can you say tattoo?)

Does Marinol make you write incredibly deep intense drawn out 20 page A+ essays?   Grin hehe



Friedrich Nietzsche - Pot Head "If one seeks relief from unbearable pressure one is to eat hashish "

President John Adams - Pot Head "We shall, by and by, want a world of hemp more for our own consumption."

Louis Armstrong - Pot Head "We always looked at pot as a sort of medicine, a cheap drunk and with much better thoughts than one that's full of liquor."

Louisa May Alcott - Pot Head (Chocolate Bon Bon covered ones too!)

Queen Victoria - Pot Head -"When pure and administered carefully, [cannabis] one of the of the most valuable medicines we possess."

George Washington -Pot Head and Grower "Make the most you can of the Indian Hemp seed and sow it everywhere."

Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin - Potheads and Growers "Hemp farmer Thomas Jefferson and paper maker Ben Franklin were ambassadors to France during the initial surge of the hashish vogue. Jefferson smuggled Chinese hemp seeds to America."

I wonder if T. J. was high when he thought of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  I wonder why they stopped producing money from hemp.  Hemp can be made to produce SOOO much material. 
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« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2009, 07:22:06 am »

Don't buy the argument that marijuana is needed for some medical cases, as, marinol, which is a marijuana alternative for medical reasons, works the same.  Those that argue against marinol are only pissed that you don't get high when you use it.

. . .

Ultimately, it will come down to a state issue, and Oklahoma will be last to legalize it (can you say tattoo?)

Marinol is a registered trademark of Solvay Pharmaceuticals and is sold as a prescription drug.  Thus, it has the complication and cost associated with it of any prescription drug.  While smoking marijuana is cheap and readily available.  On the plus side, there is no reported cases of anyone ever overdosing on the drug and the side effects include "an exaggerated sense of well-being."   I'm surprised it isn't used more frankly:  stimulate appetite, suppress nausea, pain relief, sleep aid . . . man, what can't it do!

But I agree, it will be a State issue and unless Jesus appears before some Tulsa pastor or Bob Stoops comes out in favor of it . . . Oklahoma will be 10-20 years behind the curve.
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« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2009, 01:00:14 pm »

Don't buy the argument that marijuana is needed for some medical cases, as, marinol, which is a marijuana alternative for medical reasons, works the same.  Those that argue against marinol are only pissed that you don't get high when you use it.
Marinol is only effective for a subset of the conditions marijuana is effective for.

There is a middle ground between smoking enough to have medicinal effects and getting stoned out of your mind, you know.  Tongue

Many years ago when I came down with a four day bout of a particularly severe gastroenteritis (think constant evacuation from both ends simultaneously) the only thing that would quiet the symptoms long enough to get any rest was marijuana. Even that would only last an hour at a time, but when you've been..suffering for several hours, you take what you can get. Pepto Bismol just resulted in pink vomit.

Maybe if I had been able to get myself to a doctor (which would have required the evacuation to stop long enough to get there, which was unlikely at best), I might have been able to get a prescription for a topical antiemetic, which given my history with both forms of Dramamine (they nauseate me, ironic, eh?) wouldn't have been helpful. Without the unconventional treatment I probably would have ended up in the hospital with severe dehydration if not electrolyte imbalance.
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« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2009, 02:42:31 pm »


There is a middle ground between smoking enough to have medicinal effects and getting stoned out of your mind, you know.  Tongue



So I'm told, anyhow.
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« Reply #52 on: June 25, 2009, 02:52:35 pm »

'Scuse me, I just spit vodka all over my computer screen.  I suppose it isn't in the hands of people who have balance in their life but try and pass that line of BS off on someone who has struggled with substance abuse and addiction, you won't get very far.



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« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2009, 02:54:54 pm »

So I'm told, anyhow.

Conan, you self medicator...

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« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2009, 03:27:37 pm »

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« Reply #55 on: June 25, 2009, 04:18:08 pm »

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« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2009, 11:38:09 am »

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« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2009, 09:17:00 am »

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A pro-marijuana group was set Wednesday to launch another television bid to legalize pot in California — this time with the pitch that legalizing and taxing the drug could help solve the state's massive budget deficit.

The 30-second spot, paid for by the Marijuana Policy Project, features a retired 58-year-old state worker who says state leaders "are ignoring millions of Californians who want to pay taxes."

"We're marijuana consumers," says Nadene Herndon of Fair Oaks, who says she began using marijuana after suffering multiple strokes three years ago. "Instead of being treated like criminals for using a substance safer than alcohol, we want to pay our fair share."

State lawmakers are bitterly debating how to close a $26.3 billion budget deficit that likely means cuts to state services.

In February, Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, introduced a bill to tax and regulate marijuana like alcohol. Bill supporters estimate the state's pot industry could bring in more than $1 billion in taxes.

The ad will air on several cable news channels and network broadcast affiliates in Los Angeles, Sacramento and the San Francisco Bay area, according to the Marijuana Policy Project.

The group said in a statement that three California stations — KABC-TV in Los Angeles, KGO-TV of San Francisco and KNTV-TV in San Jose — refused to air the ad.

Representatives from the three stations did not immediately return calls from The Associated Press seeking comment.

In an e-mail to the group, a KNTV account executive said the station's standards department had rejected the ad.

Marijuana Policy Project spokesman Bruce Mirken said the ad was meant to promote conversation about the issues, not to encourage pot use.

"It was consciously unsensational," Mirken said. "It's time to talk about this, and we feel very frustrated that some of these stations have taken it upon themselves to stifle the discussion."

In a phone interview, Herndon said that before filming the ad, she had not told very many people about her marijuana use. But she said her concern over the state's fiscal crisis and her support of medical marijuana led her to go public.

"I came out of the closet with this ad," she said.

Herndon said she worked as a policy analyst for several state social services departments during a 38-year career.

She said she was approache d to star in the ad while her husband was taking classes at Oaksterdam University, an Oakland trade school that trains students to grow medical marijuana.
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« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2009, 10:58:44 am »

The Tulsa County Democratic Party passed a resolution supporting the legalization, regulation, and taxation of marijuana at the last convention.
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« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2009, 11:28:04 am »

In the modern era People began using pot for medical treatment when they realized that nothing was as effective as smoking pot for treating the wasting disease associated with AIDS.  I remember the old woman in San Francisco who would bake and distribute pot laced brownies to the mostly gay men who were wasting away to skin and bones before they died.  It worked.  They maintained their weight and lived longer. 

Since then the use of pot to treat various medical conditions has expanded and many people are successfully treating medical conditions with pot prescribed by board certified physicians.   Unfortunately people in Oklahoma with medical conditions that would benefit from the use of pot are out of luck.  Tulsa likes to fancy herself as a leader in medicine but we are clearly behind the curve in this regard, not to mention short on compassion for people with serious illnesses.

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