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[citizen72]

Weather bureau is saying 6 to 12 inches of snow in some areas.

[TulsaSooner]

Some areas of Saskatchewan or some areas of NE Oklahoma?

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[citizen72]

N.W. Arkansas and S.E. Oklahoma.   []

[Steve]

This whole winter of 2007-2008 has really been a roller coaster of weather extremes.  So far, the highest gas heating bill I have received was the bill received in late January for $197.  (I have a 2000 sq. ft. slab foundation house, gas heat, gas hot water, gas kitchen stove, with barely adequate insulation.)  Last March 2007, my gas bill took a big dive due to warmer weather, but not so I suspect this year.

My electric bill is on the AMP plan, currently only $55 a month, due mainly to the cool wet spring/summer we had last June and July.  If we have a hot summer this year 2008, I expect my AMP electric payment to jump at least $30 by late summer this year.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by Steve

This whole winter of 2007-2008 has really been a roller coaster of weather extremes.  So far, the highest gas heating bill I have received was the bill received in late January for $197.  (I have a 2000 sq. ft. slab foundation house, gas heat, gas hot water, gas kitchen stove, with barely adequate insulation.)  Last March 2007, my gas bill took a big dive due to warmer weather, but not so I suspect this year.

My electric bill is on the AMP plan, currently only $55 a month, due mainly to the cool wet spring/summer we had last June and July.  If we have a hot summer this year 2008, I expect my AMP electric payment to jump at least $30 by late summer this year.

I don't even want to read those numbers.

[Steve]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by Steve

This whole winter of 2007-2008 has really been a roller coaster of weather extremes.  So far, the highest gas heating bill I have received was the bill received in late January for $197.  (I have a 2000 sq. ft. slab foundation house, gas heat, gas hot water, gas kitchen stove, with barely adequate insulation.)  Last March 2007, my gas bill took a big dive due to warmer weather, but not so I suspect this year.

My electric bill is on the AMP plan, currently only $55 a month, due mainly to the cool wet spring/summer we had last June and July.  If we have a hot summer this year 2008, I expect my AMP electric payment to jump at least $30 by late summer this year.

I don't even want to read those numbers.

Yes, and what is the deal with PSO wanting a rate increase rider due to Dec. 2007 storm damage?  Uninsured homeowners have to swallow the costs of the storm, and PSO should also have to absorb the costs, in the form of less profits and stockholder return.  Most damage to the PSO system was probably due to deferred maintenance by PSO, costs they would have incurred eventually in the future.  PSO should not be insulated from loss by virtue of their monopoly on electric service, and the ratepayers should not incur any special fees because of this natural disaster.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by citizen72


Weather bureau is saying 6 to 12 inches of snow in some areas.

Translation:  1/4 inch dusting of snow.
                       2 inches of salt and sand.

I hope it snows!  

I like it when winter goes out with a bang.  My little girl hasn't gotten to ride on a sled yet this year.[]

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Steve


Yes, and what is the deal with PSO wanting a rate increase rider due to Dec. 2007 storm damage?  Uninsured homeowners have to swallow the costs of the storm, and PSO should also have to absorb the costs, in the form of less profits and stockholder return.  Most damage to the PSO system was probably due to deferred maintenance by PSO, costs they would have incurred eventually in the future.  PSO should not be insulated from loss by virtue of their monopoly on electric service, and the ratepayers should not incur any special fees because of this natural disaster.

PSO's profit margin is specifically regulated to operating costs plus a certain %. That certain % covers normal operating costs. PSO has been seeking a higher margin for more undergrounding and tree trimming but has received a high amount of resistance from the public. Some areas in Tulsa are famous for not allowing PSO to underground OR aggressively cut trees. PSO is absorbing much of the cost and selling off environmental credits to do so but how much tree trimming do you think will get done if they are operating at a loss? If you want PSO to be able to absorb the cost, push for deregulation in Oklahoma and watch your electric bill double.

For a different perspective, I went around with a line crew supervisor from South Carolina and he was wondering what was wrong with Tulsans. He was surprised at the high number of trees planted near or directly under lines as well as the fact Hardly anyone maintains their trees. PSO trims trees to "cover their butt" so to speak but 95 times out of 100, it's a private property owner's tree on their property. It's not PSO's job to keep your tree trimmed any more than it's their job to mow your lawn or do your dishes.

[Kashmir]

[/quote]

Yes, and what is the deal with PSO wanting a rate increase rider due to Dec. 2007 storm damage?  Uninsured homeowners have to swallow the costs of the storm, and PSO should also have to absorb the costs, in the form of less profits and stockholder return.  Most damage to the PSO system was probably due to deferred maintenance by PSO, costs they would have incurred eventually in the future.  PSO should not be insulated from loss by virtue of their monopoly on electric service, and the ratepayers should not incur any special fees because of this natural disaster.
[/quote]

Amen to that.  I hate them all.  Even if you were insured and had damage, lots of people have had to swallow unexpected costs.  Lost food, feeding family members that were staying with you, etc.  So stupid.

[TulsaSooner]

Why does snow hate the I-44 corridor but thunderstorms love it?

We are ALWAYS on the line when it comes to getting snow.  I want 12" dammit.  [!]

Wait a minute...

[cannon_fodder]

I don't believe you.

We had "weather" last Sunday night, then it was Monday... err Tuesday morning.  But at my house (midtown), NADA!

I need to find a job where I can be wrong a significant amount of the time and maintain employment.  "Yeah, I'd say there is a 70% change of this being legal."  []

(I know it is a hard job and I couldn't do better, but I still get to jab the weathermen)

[grahambino]

When it comes to winter weather in OK, i believe it when I see it.

Though they did get the Dec. ice storm's forecast right.

[Breadburner]

Stay indoors....**DO NOT GO OUTSIDE**.....

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by TulsaSooner

Why does snow hate the I-44 corridor but thunderstorms love it?

We are ALWAYS on the line when it comes to getting snow.  I want 12" dammit.  [!]

Wait a minute...

It's a global warming deal.  I-44 is creating a man-made barrier to snow fall.  We must take I-44 up and allow all these semi trucks to traipse through town on our carpet-bombed streets and snarl our traffic so we can get our snowfall numbers up.

[}:)]

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by TulsaSooner

Why does snow hate the I-44 corridor but thunderstorms love it?

We are ALWAYS on the line when it comes to getting snow.  I want 12" dammit.  [!]

Wait a minute...

Thats what she said......