North Tulsa Safe?

[AMP]

Write a list of all the businesses, venues, churches and restaurants that are located North of Admrial up to the northern Tulsa City Limits.  

Guess if one looks at the Tulsa City Limits map, Tulsa is a fairly small town.  

[AMP]

http://www.lancasterpark.org/documents/maps/Tulsa_MetroAreaMap_200501.jpg

[iplaw]

quote:Crime seems to be everywhere in Tulsa even at my sisters, and friends homes in Southern Hills and in south Tulsa. No where seems to be exempt from crime today.

If there's two places in Tulsa you can be sure to find crime, it's North Tulsa, and between 61 and 71st between Peoria and Riverside.  The rest of Tulsa is pretty much bereft of violent crime, especially murder, unless I've missed some news reports lately.

But I do feel your pain.  Waymon Tisdale's house (or former house) is a prime example.  Huge, beautiful house in North west Tulsa.  Very atypical for the area...

[tulsascoot]

Sure there's crime on North Tulsa, but, it's not so dangerous you can't go there. Tulsa's "bad side" of town is completely tame compared to the "ghetto" areas of cities like St. Louis, Dallas, or KC. I've somehow been lost in the wrong areas of all 3, and that can be unnerving, even in broad daylight.

Besides, if you stay away completely, you'll never get to enjoy Stutt's BBQ (Apache $ Harvard)and until recently, Wilson's BBQ (they just opened a new location on 11th, though I've been eating at the Apache and Peoria location for a decade). They've got some of the best food in town.

Don't be afraid of the North side, there are thousands of hard working and upstanding citizens and neighbors. I feel many people misjudge the area because most of the residents are black. Is that the racial problem you were asking about? If so, they didn't create that, that started a bit further south, and it comes from ignorance and fear.

If you are interested in that church, then go there Sunday morning, I am sure they will welcome you with open arms.

[AMP]

Run the Tulsapolice.org Crime Map and try to find any square block in Tulsa that has not had a crime commited on it in this past year.  Most are personal assaults, auto thefts, car break ins and burglaries.

javascript:void openMap('http://public.tulsapolice.org/website/PublicCrime/')

CURRENT TULSA MAP

javascript:void%20openMap('http://public.tulsapolice.org/website/PublicCrime2005/')

2005 TULSA MAP
Hard to find anywhere on land in Tulsa,  that does not have a dot lit up on that map.  

By looking at those layers and maps online, you will soon notice that only a very very small percentage of crimes are reported by the news media.

[AMP]

The Blue Stars indicate a crime that has been commited at that address in the past 12 months time.  Not sure how or if you can combine maps from more than one 12 month time period on top of one another.  

11TH And Sheridan
http://public.tulsapolice.org/website/PublicCrime/images/pixel.gif

1100 N Sheridan
http://public.tulsapolice.org/website/PublicCrime/images/pixel.gif

71st And Memorial
http://public.tulsapolice.org/website/PublicCrime/images/pixel.gif

41st and Garnett
http://public.tulsapolice.org/website/PublicCrime/images/pixel.gif

[YoungTulsan]

quote:Originally posted by AMP

The Blue Stars indicate a crime that has been commited at that address in the past 12 months time.  Not sure how or if you can combine maps from more than one 12 month time period on top of one another.  

11TH And Sheridan
http://public.tulsapolice.org/website/PublicCrime/images/pixel.gif

1100 N Sheridan
http://public.tulsapolice.org/website/PublicCrime/images/pixel.gif

71st And Memorial
http://public.tulsapolice.org/website/PublicCrime/images/pixel.gif

41st and Garnett
http://public.tulsapolice.org/website/PublicCrime/images/pixel.gif

Wrong links

If you are doing a Tulsa crime map with all crimes turned on, virtually every neighborhood is COVERED in dots.  To make it a little more in tune with the feeling of "safety", you should just show a map with homicides, robberies, and sex assaults, IMO.  Petty theft and vandalism happens all the time, everywhere, and map is covered in it.

[AMP]

Just ran the burgulary maps.  Not many streets in Tulsa have less than a half dozen.

Ran the Felony Assualt near 41st and Garnett down to 71st and over to 145th back to Memorial.  Map lites up like a Christmas Tree.

Once you have chosen one or more listings, you can use the hand tool to pan around town, or shirnk the view to see all the areas at a glance.

Just ran Felony Assault near 41st and Lewis, still cannot locate a square mile that does not light up with muitiple indicators.  Weapon of choice is listed if you use the lasso tool to view specific addresses indicated by the dots.

How do you copy past the current map you are viewing in another post so others can view it without going through the intensive training learning curve to operate the map?

[Porky]

If North Tulsa worries any of you, may I suggest you do not stop in Coweta after dark. And if you would happen to stumble into Red Fork after dark.....oh my, may the Good Lord have mercy upon you! [:O]

[YoungTulsan]

The crime map is generated by a program, it is not an image you can just right click, save as...  or copy.

You'd have to take a screen cap (the print screen button copys a screen cap to your clipboard) then paste it into a paint program.  Then you'd have to crop out everything but the map so we don't have to look at your desktop and e-trade account.  Then you'd have to save it as a gif or jpg.  Then you'd have to host it on a server like imageshack or photobucket.  Then you could link the image here.

Pretty simple?

[YoungTulsan]

quote:Originally posted by Porky

If North Tulsa worries any of you, may I suggest you do not stop in Coweta after dark. And if you would happen to stumble into Red Fork after dark.....oh my, may the Good Lord have mercy upon you! [:O]

People are getting shot on a nightly basis in North Tulsa right now.  That is not happening in West Tulsa (except for that girl that was killed at the section 8 projects at 61st and Union a month or two ago) - Red Fork is a few miles and highway divides away though.

All of the shootings in North Tulsa seem to be a specific type of person shooting others of the same description.  Does that mean your average joe could take a walk on foot through some of those fine neighborhoods at 2am?  I'm not so sure.  It might just mean that everyone except for that certain description STAYS AWAY from that area, especially at night.

Also, in the defense of North Tulsa, most of the shootings are happening in a small area, around 56th st. North between Peoria and Cincinnati (approx, but that general 'hood.)  To label everything North of Admiral as "North Tulsa", and then subsequently say "North Tulsa is a very bad, unsafe place" is an incorrect description of 70-80% of those places that happen to fall into "North of Admiral".

[bugo]

quote:Originally posted by tulsascoot

Sure there's crime on North Tulsa, but, it's not so dangerous you can't go there. Tulsa's "bad side" of town is completely tame compared to the "ghetto" areas of cities like St. Louis, Dallas, or KC. I've somehow been lost in the wrong areas of all 3, and that can be unnerving, even in broad daylight.

Where in KC did you get lost?  I lived up there for 2 years and there were no parts of town that I felt terribly unsafe in during the day.

[Porky]

quote:Originally posted by bugo


Where in KC did you get lost?  I lived up there for 2 years and there were no parts of town that I felt terribly unsafe in during the day.

Probably the Bannister Mall. That's the only area I felt unsafe in when I lived in Kansas City.

[Porky]

quote:Originally posted by YoungTulsan

quote:Originally posted by Porky

If North Tulsa worries any of you, may I suggest you do not stop in Coweta after dark. And if you would happen to stumble into Red Fork after dark.....oh my, may the Good Lord have mercy upon you! [:O]

People are getting shot on a nightly basis in North Tulsa right now.  That is not happening in West Tulsa (except for that girl that was killed at the section 8 projects at 61st and Union a month or two ago) - Red Fork is a few miles and highway divides away though.

All of the shootings in North Tulsa seem to be a specific type of person shooting others of the same description.  Does that mean your average joe could take a walk on foot through some of those fine neighborhoods at 2am?  I'm not so sure.  It might just mean that everyone except for that certain description STAYS AWAY from that area, especially at night.

Also, in the defense of North Tulsa, most of the shootings are happening in a small area, around 56th st. North between Peoria and Cincinnati (approx, but that general 'hood.)  To label everything North of Admiral as "North Tulsa", and then subsequently say "North Tulsa is a very bad, unsafe place" is an incorrect description of 70-80% of those places that happen to fall into "North of Admiral".

I go to North Tulsa all the time and it's a wonderful community. Obviously they have a problem area but it's small, compared to the rest of their community.

If our Mayor and Chief of Police would address the gang/drug problem, that small area wouldn't be an issue either.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by bugo

quote:Originally posted by tulsascoot

Sure there's crime on North Tulsa, but, it's not so dangerous you can't go there. Tulsa's "bad side" of town is completely tame compared to the "ghetto" areas of cities like St. Louis, Dallas, or KC. I've somehow been lost in the wrong areas of all 3, and that can be unnerving, even in broad daylight.

Where in KC did you get lost?  I lived up there for 2 years and there were no parts of town that I felt terribly unsafe in during the day.

I lived in KCK for 6 months 20 years ago.  The old neighborhood I lived in between State and Parallel and about 63rd is pretty rough now.

Back then, you avoided old Hwy 71 near downtown KCMO.  29th & Prospect was so rough, HBO did a series on the crime there about 10 years ago.  29th & Prospect made 56th N. and Cincinatti in Tulsa look like Mr. Roger's neighborhood.