51st & Sheridan is considered "Midtown"?

[NCTulsan]

I guess the boundaries of "Midtown" are further south than I ever thought.

http://www.kjrh.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=52d99436-a56f-4584-a5c1-a2e67caf2a69&rss=701

Jun 19, 2007 12:02 PM
Midtown restaurant burns
Posted By: Russell Mills

A midtown restaurant remained closed Tuesday after fire badly damaged the business overnight.

Several calls came in to 911 around midnight to report smoke coming from the Burger Street located at 6151 E. 51st Street.

When firefighters broke through the front door to reach the fire, the increased oxygen supply caused the blaze to fare up.

Flames spread fairly rapidly through the buildings upper level and onto the roof.

Firefighters beat the flames back fairly quickly, but the building suffered extensive heat and smoke damage.

The cause of the fire remains under investigation, but appears to have begun in the area above the grill.

Employees closed the restaurant and left at about 11:30 p.m. Monday, so no one was inside at the time of the fire.

[MichaelC]

I live around 31st and Harvard, hence forth known as  North Tulsa.

[Conan71]

So technically I'm geographically challenged when I refer to 15th & Harvard as mid-town?

[MichaelC]

The proper term for 15th and Harvard, is "Greater Turley."

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelC

The proper term for 15th and Harvard, is "Greater Turley."

Coffee-spitting laugh of the day.[}:)]

[cannon_fodder]

51st and Sheridan would be the most extreme limits of midtown in my relatively-new-to-Tulsa opinion. Well, probably not.  Anything past I-44 isnt midtown to me really.  I would say 31st and Sheridan is where midtown goes to die.  Along with I-244 and then 11th and Utica

What do you call the area around Lafortune?  It isn't really South Tulsa anymore - is it? I think of South Tulsa as being the new cookie cutter subdivisions on 91st etc.

Here, I will do it this way:

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Midtown - blue

North Tulsa - red.  Kind of blend part of Kendal in there in my head.

Mustard - downtown (should include the pearl) and Boston area

Green - East Tulsa (should continue east but I cropped it wrong)

South of 71st I consider South Tulsa.  Not sure what the other area is between I-44 and 71st.

Then there is West Tulsa.

And the North West part of town is split between greenwood, the whatever hills, gilcrease and some other areas.  Just kind of call that entire place the Gilcrease area.

I'm not arguing that I know what I'm talking about.  Just that it represents pretty well what I think in my own little world.

[Townsend]

quote: South of 71st I consider South Tulsa. Not sure what the other area is between I-44 and 71st

Midtown/Southie umbilical?

[MichaelC]

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

quote: South of 71st I consider South Tulsa. Not sure what the other area is between I-44 and 71st

Midtown/Southie umbilical?

That's why this question is a question.  The "South Tulsa" talked about now didn't exist 20 years ago.  There wasn't much at all south of 71st.

[Townsend]

Good point.  South Tulsa Addition One...then as we travel South, Addition Two, Three, eventually getting to South Tulsa Jenks Addition, Bixby Addition...eventually there will be Glenpool of South Tulsa and Kiefer of South Tulsa.  75 will be our main street.

Huh, I really will be living in Greater Turley

[AMP]

Still the center of the city by address is Main and Admiral no matter what anyone says, right?

Many people that have not lived in Tulsa for a while are unaware of that fact.  

I always see Mid Town as around the Cherry Street district and perhaps to Peoria West and back East to around Harvard, North to I-244/412 and South to around 21st Street.

Most anything South of 21st to me is South Tulsa.  The smaller towns city limits eliminate the Tulsa address in those areas.  

Never understood why addresses in Tulsa that are on the North side of Admiral require a North following the street name to be written on them, however addresses south of Admiral seldom have a South following the Street name written on them. They do have after a hundred block, but not after a Street name for some reason.  

Seems most the homes and construction was developed North long before it was on the South side of Admiral.  

[NCTulsan]

I would say my own definition of today's "Midtown" is bounded by the IDL on the northwest, Arkansas River on the west, Skelly Bypass on the south, Sheridan on the east, and Crosstown Expressway on the north.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by AMP

Never understood why addresses in Tulsa that are on the North side of Admiral require a North following the street name to be written on them, however addresses south of Admiral seldom have a South following the Street name written on them. They do have after a hundred block, but not after a Street name for some reason.  

It's a racist thing.  It's "The Man" keeping the peeps down.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by AMP

Never understood why addresses in Tulsa that are on the North side of Admiral require a North following the street name to be written on them, however addresses south of Admiral seldom have a South following the Street name written on them. They do have after a hundred block, but not after a Street name for some reason.  

Seems most the homes and construction was developed North long before it was on the South side of Admiral.  

I was told that it was accepted to address things that way. [HOUSE#] [N,E,W,S] [STREET NAME] [N,W, or none]

It was explained to me that most of Tulsa sits South and East of downtown, so those directions are implied.

[AMP]

Let's say for example if you are mailing to 2600 East 36th Street North and do not use a Zip Code and write 2600 East 41st Street the letter will go to the South side.  

For some reason there is not a requirement to write 2600 East 36th Street South on the letter, as it will go there first before being routed to the North address or returned for incomplete address.  Never understood that.

[cannon_fodder]

I've never written "S" on my address. But my work address is always written with an "N."

If 28th and Harvard is not midtown, does that mean I live in South Tulsa?  That makes no sense to me.  So then 91st and Riverside is what - because the area I live in certainly should not be described in the same manner as that area.  Totally different.  Some of the definitions of midtown seem to be geared towards finding $200,000 plus houses north of 51st St. "S."

Just wondering, because if 28th and Harvard is south Tulsa, and 91st and Harvard is South Tulsa... then the term is pretty worthless.