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Open letter to bicycling Santa

Started by RecycleMichael, December 05, 2005, 10:00:07 AM

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deinstein

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Originally posted by shadows

Regardless of how it can be scrutinized it cannot be said of him that he is not exercising his rights and securing yours.   Remember how stupid it was for the colonist to throw that good tea overboard in the harbor merely because it had a tax placed on it?  All of life is in the eyes of the beholder.




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Post of the century.


rwarn17588

Anyone taking bets on how long ttownjoe, aka Paul Tay, lasts on the forum before he gets kicked off again?

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ttownjoe

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Originally posted by rwarn17588

Anyone taking bets on how long ttownjoe, aka Paul Tay, lasts on the forum before he gets kicked off again?

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50 clams he's gone by 1300 today.

ttownjoe

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Originally posted by tim huntzinger

I think they should take on Avery Drive outbound during rush hour.  Unlike the Expry or Memorial Ave, Avery Drive has mega bike signage.



Yep.  Memorial and the BA are dangerous for bikes.  They are dangerous for motor vehicles too.  Why stop at banning bikes from Memorial and the expressways?  

Ban ALL vehicles from the roadways and allow pedestrians to use the roadways ONLY after church on Sundays.

Sangria

In my personal opinion, Paul Tay is pathetic and will do anything for attention. He don't care if it is good or bad attention so long as someone sees him.

He must have a very low self esteme to have to stoop to degrading himself by dragging around inflated penis' and blow up dolls.

deinstein

quote:
Originally posted by Sangria

In my personal opinion, Paul Tay is pathetic and will do anything for attention. He don't care if it is good or bad attention so long as someone sees him.

He must have a very low self esteme to have to stoop to degrading himself by dragging around inflated penis' and blow up dolls.



You don't laugh?

I mean, I think it's hysterical...

You're driving down a busy road with SUVs and uptight people...and BAM! Paul Tay...Santa, Blow Up Dolls...absolutely hilarious.

sgrizzle

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Originally posted by rwarn17588

Anyone taking bets on how long ttownjoe, aka Paul Tay, lasts on the forum before he gets kicked off again?

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Pretty quick

AMP

Can't say as if I have ever seen either one of them.  I knew Frank in the 1980's, but have never seen him riding his bicycle.

Guess they rarely come to Mid Town, and because I have no use for much of anything in South Tulsa, I make it a point to never go south of 21st unless it is a necessity or a life or death type deal.

deinstein

Not going south of 21st is diehard.

I put my boundaries at 41st Street.

And yes, these people are all over Tulsa.

brhino42

To all the spoiled drivers of this little town with one of the shortest commute times in the country:  slow down and read your driver's manual.

Bicycling Santa and BikerFox--are these the icons of cycling in Tulsa?  And what about this group's highly intelligent, socially conscientious responses to them?

Bicycling Santa was pictured splitting the lane, which is illegal.  BikerFox is afraid of traffic and rides the median, which is illegal.  But unique as these two are, the people on this forum seem to have no clue about what is legal and safe when it comes to cycling.  Threatening to run people down?  Is that funny to you?  You know what's funnier than that?  An all day seat in front of a driver's education instructor.  Or how about a little jail time?  I know several police officers who are also cyclists and would be glad to oblige you.

Just for the record, I'm the guy in yellow panniers who rides all over town, doesn't swerve out of the way when you yell and throw things, signals his turns, takes the right-hand lane, stops at lights, and will even stop to have a civil conversation with you, if you're actually civil.  No, I'm not taking a lane on the B.A., so keep your one-fingered salutes to yourselves--although until they ban bikes from HWY 51, Santa has a right to use the shoulder.  But unlike Santa, I belong to a growing group of people who don't want your attention.  We're usually going somewhere, like work or school, so keep in mind that when you yell out your car window, the doppler effect makes you sound retarded and incoherent, beyond any actual significance your words might have.

P.S.  Stop passing other cars on the right at high speed.  Bad "car"ma will follow.
 

Sangria

Ok, Mr Outraged Bicyclist, let me tell you what the rest of us see...

Maybe you do signal your turns - you are one of the few.

Maybe you obey the street signs - again you are one of the few.

In one day I have had the green light and had a bicyclist blow the stop and ride out in front of me. It's nothing to see them riding against traffic on Skelley Drive. I have almost hit them.

They do what they want, where they want and thumb their noses at laws intended to keep them AND US safe on the streets.

For every one rider who does what he or she should, there are many more who are a complete nightmare to the rest of us.

As for Paul Tey - yes, I think he is funny in a Beavis and Butthead kind of way. But it doesn't mean I approve of what he does.

deinstein

I think people should be able to cycle wherever they want until there are biking lanes on every main road.

jamesrage

One of the things that pisses me about some of these byciclist they sometimes take up a whole lane.When you are a bike stay as far right to the side of the road as possible.The police should give any bicyclist a ticket who ride in the middle of a lane.I used to ride a bike a to work everyday  so I know it is possible to stay to the far right of the road as possible.
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AVERAGE JOE

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Originally posted by jamesrage

One of the things that pisses me about some of these byciclist they sometimes take up a whole lane.When you are a bike stay as far right to the side of the road as possible.The police should give any bicyclist a ticket who ride in the middle of a lane.I used to ride a bike a to work everyday  so I know it is possible to stay to the far right of the road as possible.


But by law they are entitled to the lane.

Ed W

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Originally posted by inteller

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we have a lot of laws that grant certain rights, doesnt mean they make sense in this day and age.



Actually, taking the lane makes a lot of sense.  Motorists are VERY good at judging when something is in front of them, but they're not as good at judging how much clearance they have to the right.  So if a cyclist rides down the fog line, he'll have motor vehicles going right by his elbow.  If he moves further left, motorists have to wait until it's safe to pass.  And it's always the responsibility of an overtaking driver to do so safely.  No one - regardless of their mode of transportation - is obligated to get out of his way.  

It seems counter-intuitive that a cyclist is safer by moving further left in the lane, but it's true.  Motorists will usually pass to his left with about as much room as he leaves to his right.  

Drivers often don't understand why a cyclist would take the full width of the lane, and they mistake it as arrogance or an attempt to impede traffic.  Nothing in the law requires anyone to do something unsafe, and riding as far right as possible is definitely unsafe.  Oklahoma law was changed to reflect this last year.  The old language said that cyclists were to ride as far right as practicable.  The new language says they're to ride as far right as is safe.  And the perception of safety is greatly different when your protection consists of a few layers of fabric and a styrofoam hat rather than a ton or more of steel and glass.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.