KTUL losing talent?

[waterboy]

Of the four local stations I always thought of KTUL as the most conservative. I still like them just fine. Perhaps you could give an example of one of their more liberal spins on the news.

I feel about conservatives the same way you do about liberals but it is easier to spot conservative spin. Since conservatives dominate the airwaves it is rare to hear anyone do the liberal slant. Espescially locally!

But when you need some contrast with reality just go to one of the national Fox news programs. They don't mind calling names and using negatives to describe anyone who strays from the fold.

The perfect example is Karl Rove reporting. I suppose DelGiorno is ecstatic with Rove's traitorous behaviour. Uh oh...awk,awk, he's liberal, liberal..awk,awk!

Yes, I am.

[tulsa1603]

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

quote:You have got to be kidding! I have always considered Channel 8 news to be a mouthpiece for the Tulsa Chamber of Commerce. In my opinion, they offer the most conservative, "Republican," viewpoint of any local broadcast station.

KTUL IS LIBERAL.  I watch a lot of news and hear the same stories on all the stations and KTUL always has to put a liberal spin on it.  Sometimes it is just a word or two, but they almost always put some type of liberal twist on the story.  
I am not the only one who feels this way.  Ask Michael DelGiorno, he too would tell you KTUL is the most liberal.  
I sent an email to KTUL once telling them I was sick of their liberal spins, and one of the workers there, who admitted he wasn't happy with KTULs approach, replided something along the lines of, "KTUL reports the news as we see it and when I say we, I mean the writers."  Now I don't know, maybe he was just having a bad day, but I doubt it.

I know you don't always see it, but KTUL is liberal.  Sometimes I zone out and don't really catch it either, but if you listen closely, you will hear the liberal spins.

Ya...Michael DelGiorno...I'll make sure and ask him next time I see him...he's not biased or anything.  [xx(]

[rwarn17588]

Cubs, citing Michael DelGiorno as a source for bias in the news is like asking Chef Boyardee for gourmet cooking tips.

And what is this bias you're talking about with KTUL? Specifics, please.

Personally, I think you're just citing your own biases, and anything left of the John Birch Society you consider as "liberal."

[Porky]

I enjoy 8 and 6 but as far as a weatherman goes, all either station needs to do is just put a small radar image in the lower left hand of the screen when a storm comes to town. If someone wants to know how hot it is outside, they just need to take their lazy butt outside in the yard. This also works in the same method when checking to see if it's raining outside.

Sports should be renamed to Entertainment, for that's all it is anymore. If these stations want to up their ratings, they need to start covering women beach volleyball and stuff like that, and forget about all them alumni's needing something to watch while pounding beers down during a Happy Hour somewhere.

[tulsatype]

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

quote:You have got to be kidding! I have always considered Channel 8 news to be a mouthpiece for the Tulsa Chamber of Commerce. In my opinion, they offer the most conservative, "Republican," viewpoint of any local broadcast station.

KTUL IS LIBERAL.  I watch a lot of news and hear the same stories on all the stations and KTUL always has to put a liberal spin on it.  Sometimes it is just a word or two, but they almost always put some type of liberal twist on the story.  
I am not the only one who feels this way.  Ask Michael DelGiorno, he too would tell you KTUL is the most liberal.  
I sent an email to KTUL once telling them I was sick of their liberal spins, and one of the workers there, who admitted he wasn't happy with KTULs approach, replided something along the lines of, "KTUL reports the news as we see it and when I say we, I mean the writers."  Now I don't know, maybe he was just having a bad day, but I doubt it.

I know you don't always see it, but KTUL is liberal.  Sometimes I zone out and don't really catch it either, but if you listen closely, you will hear the liberal spins.

Want to know the big problem with Tulsa Cubs? It has way, way too many people like you. Has rock hard conservatism ever gotten the city anywhere? Not that I can see.

Take a peek at house prices in so called liberal cities like NYC, Miami, San Francisco, Seattle and elsewhere and then look at Tulsa. Recently MSNBC published a list and ID'd Tulsa as one of the 10 worst housing markets in the USA. Sounds like most people want to be in the liberal cities. Want to know why Cubs? Freedom.

You need to get out more. As long as Tulsa espouses the KKK/John Birch line it will continue to suck hind-t**

[pmcalk]

Part of the problem is the hi-jacking by the religious right of the term liberalism.  To them, the word is synonymous with immoral gays & lesbians who was to corrupt their children and teach them creationism.

Here is the definition of liberal from the American Heritage dictionary:

quote:liberal: ADJECTIVE: 1a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.

So, Cubs, are you saying that KTUL reports the news in a way that is tolerant, progressive, and broad-minded?  Are they not bigoted?  Hmmm, maybe I should watch them sometimes(though I still think they have the worst reporters).

[D.Schuttler]

quote:Originally posted by tulsatype

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

quote:You have got to be kidding! I have always considered Channel 8 news to be a mouthpiece for the Tulsa Chamber of Commerce. In my opinion, they offer the most conservative, "Republican," viewpoint of any local broadcast station.

KTUL IS LIBERAL.  I watch a lot of news and hear the same stories on all the stations and KTUL always has to put a liberal spin on it.  Sometimes it is just a word or two, but they almost always put some type of liberal twist on the story.  
I am not the only one who feels this way.  Ask Michael DelGiorno, he too would tell you KTUL is the most liberal.  
I sent an email to KTUL once telling them I was sick of their liberal spins, and one of the workers there, who admitted he wasn't happy with KTULs approach, replided something along the lines of, "KTUL reports the news as we see it and when I say we, I mean the writers."  Now I don't know, maybe he was just having a bad day, but I doubt it.

I know you don't always see it, but KTUL is liberal.  Sometimes I zone out and don't really catch it either, but if you listen closely, you will hear the liberal spins.

Want to know the big problem with Tulsa Cubs? It has way, way too many people like you. Has rock hard conservatism ever gotten the city anywhere? Not that I can see.

Take a peek at house prices in so called liberal cities like NYC, Miami, San Francisco, Seattle and elsewhere and then look at Tulsa. Recently MSNBC published a list and ID'd Tulsa as one of the 10 worst housing markets in the USA. Sounds like most people want to be in the liberal cities. Want to know why Cubs? Freedom.

You need to get out more. As long as Tulsa espouses the KKK/John Birch line it will continue to suck hind-t**

WHAT!!! San Frann is liberal [:O]  


Keep up the good examples there TT....  

Cubs ,I'd just let them win .... no use

[T-Town Now]

If KTUL really wanted to improve its market share, perhaps they should start by dumping Carole "Guess what color my hair's going to be this year" Lambert and Charles "I come across as smug and arrogant and I don't care" Ely. I can't stand watching them.

And who would have thought that Eddie Munster (aka Frank Mitchell) would grow up to be a Meteorologist in Tulsa, OK?

The people at FOX come across as more professional, in my opinion, although I think Channel 2 provides the best overall news coverage in the area.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by sendoff

quote:If KTUL really wanted to improve its market share, perhaps they should start by dumping Carole "Guess what color my hair's going to be this year" Lambert and Charles "I come across as smug and arrogant and I don't care" Ely. I can't stand watching them.

I think that is the key. Two 'has-been' anchors whose 'understudys' are much better than them. For some reason, they still have enough clout at the station. Carole's 23 year tenure is very long by any new-reading standard.

And Charles' monotone delivery is terribly annoying.

Which begs another question:

Many times, in cities Tulsa's size (and even larger), a local news job is seen as a step to a larger market for many anchors. Its kind of like the minor league baseball system. And with the minor league baseball system, you get to see some of the rising talent for awhile before they move onto the Majors.

However, with Tulsa's anchors (and reporters too) it seems like most end up being 'lifers'. And I think the quality shows (i.e. lack thereof).

Why don't we get better talent coming through?

[And as far as bias, I don't think KTUL is liberal or conservative. I think that the powerful people at the station have been around town so long, and made friends and acquaintances of other local notables, that locally unbiased reporting is sometimes difficult. Their regional and national news is basically generic.]

Channel 8 won an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor during Vision 2025.

Besides serial puff-piece positive info-mercials masquerading as "news", promoting the VOTE YES side of Vision 2025, they had the effrontery to SPIKE their re-broadcast of Ch. 47's Vision 2025 Debate just a day before the election, and instead aired a re-run of "Cheers".  How informative!

"Technical difficulties", they harrumphed. Sure.

Seems their station manager was a higher-up wannabe with the Metro Tulsa ChamberPots, and was just doing the "Good 'Ol Boy" network a favor.

My payback is real simple:  Hit them in their pocketbook.  

I've been boycotting them non-stop ever since that decision.   NEVER turn them on.  Now, THAT hurts them.

They could be re-cycling Walter Klondike or Dan Blather from retirement from the Liberal Biased-Media Rest Home, and I wouldn't know or care 'cause I don't tune them in.  EVER.

Silence is Golden.

[8D]

[rwarn17588]

Except for the NFL, a little baseball and some college football that I can catch with my old-fashioned rabbit ears, I don't watch television at all. I canceled my cable way back in 2000 and don't miss it.

So where does that put me?

[KTULWebteam]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

They had the effrontery to SPIKE their re-broadcast of Ch. 47's Vision 2025 Debate just a day before the election, and instead aired a re-run of "Cheers".  How informative!

"Technical difficulties", they harrumphed. Sure.

If you'd have e-mailed me, I'd have explained those technical difficulties. TV-47 was supposed to give us a clean copy of the debate, meaning no logos, no graphics, etc. We didn't get that. We got one with logos on it. Could we have aired it? Yeah, probably. But, we didn't and we had to take the heat for it. But, to say it was because one side did better than the other or that we had a bias toward one side or the other would be incorrect.

[Neptune]

Hey....an insider!!  Welcome.

Anything new going on with KTUL's talent line-up?  Was the Travis Meyers hop...just a average ordinary talent move?

[KTULWebteam]

quote:Originally posted by neptune74137

Hey....an insider!!  Welcome.

Anything new going on with KTUL's talent line-up?  Was the Travis Meyers hop...just a average ordinary talent move?

That was his decision. They offered him a load of cash. I guess that was more important. I don't guess I could blame him.

[Neptune]

Thanks KTUL,

I was kind of hoping you were going to say..."I fired him, and Charles Ely is next."  But...can't win them all.  []

[KTULWebteam]

quote:Originally posted by neptune74137

Thanks KTUL,
I was kind of hoping you were going to say..."I fired him, and Charles Ely is next."  But...can't win them all.  []

Heck, I can't fire anyone. I'm on the LOW end of the totem pole. But, I'd hate to fire Chuck. He's an all around good guy.