Puppet War in Syria

[guido911]

Obama is the farthest thing from a warmongering president I can recall. I simply refuse to believe he would spend millions and millions of dollars in military hardware and risk escalation and loss of American lives because his red line got crossed. I believe him about WMD, and back him still. I also hope he hits a home run with the American people on Monday during his interviews.  

He MUST follow through, regardless of the outcome of his Congress gambit. Doing NOTHING at this point is the worst thing, sends the worst message.

Oh, and this statement from some Iran f&ckstain directed at Obama's daughter has not helped:

As Congress debates whether to support President Obama's call for a limited strike against Syria for the alleged use of chemical weapons, Iran is vowing to back Bashar al-Assad's regime to the hilt and threatening to unleash terrorism should the U.S. strike.

Qassem Soleimani, the head of Iran's Quds Forces, Wednesday told the Assembly of Experts — the body that chooses the supreme leader — that "[w]e will support Syria to the end."

And in an unprecedented statement, a former Iranian official has warned of mass abductions and brutal killings of American citizens around the world and the rape and killing of one of Obama's daughters should the United States attack Syria.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/05/iran-threatens-brutal-attacks-on-americans-obama-family-if-us-hits-syria/#ixzz2eHXLnPO3

[Gaspar]

The Chinese have just dispatched their enormous amphibious assault ship, the Jinggangshan to Syrian waters to be stationed alongside the Russian fleet. 



It's a massive ship loaded with 20 amphibious assault vehicles and helicopters.

[guido911]

Is it the Sum Ting Wong?

[Conan71]

Is it the Sum Ting Wong?

No I think it's Wi Tu Lo, Ho Le Fuk, or Bang Ding Ow

[Gaspar]

Obama: "There is no alternative to tiny insignificant military strikes!"
Putin: "Syria, Surender your chemical weapons."
Obama: "Oh yeah, there is that."
Putin: "Moron."

I think this may be the first time Russia ever made the USA look stupid. They've come a long way from banging shoes on the table!

[Red Arrow]

Obama: "There is no alternative to tiny insignificant military strikes!"
Putin: "Syria, Surender your chemical weapons."
Obama: "Oh yeah, there is that."
Putin: "Moron."

I believe it is unlikely that any US President could have gotten Syria to give up their chemical weapons without the help of Russia.

[Gaspar]

I believe it is unlikely that any US President could have gotten Syria to give up their chemical weapons without the help of Russia.

Perhaps we should have asked them for their help in the first place?

[Gaspar]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/10/world/middleeast/surprise-russian-proposal-catches-obama-between-putin-and-house-republicans.html?hp&_r=0

[guido911]

I believe it is unlikely that any US President could have gotten Syria to give up their chemical weapons without the help of Russia.

Ask W? I believe he has an opinion based on Libya.

[Gaspar]

Ask W? I believe he has an opinion based on Libya.

Good luck!  Unlike some former presidents, W does not comment on the policies of a sitting president.

[guido911]

Good luck!  Unlike some former presidents, W does not comment on the policies of a sitting president.

The question was rhetorical. Libya is an example of a government that gave up its WMD with ZERO help from Russia. The ol' fear of "shock and awe" scared the biden out of Qaddafi.

[Conan71]

The question was rhetorical. Libya is an example of a government that gave up its WMD with ZERO help from Russia. The ol' fear of "shock and awe" scared the biden out of Qaddafi.

Who cares who gets Assad's hands off the chemical weapons so long as it achieves a better ending than killing innocent civilians as collateral damage?  We should have told Putin to put his beotch on a short leash a few weeks ago instead of being ready to lob missiles for the sake of lobbing missiles.  

The whole objective is to keep him from killing his own citizens and neighbors in the region, right?

[guido911]

Who cares who gets Assad's hands off the chemical weapons so long as it achieves a better ending than killing innocent civilians as collateral damage?  We should have told Putin to put his beotch on a short leash a few weeks ago instead of being ready to lob missiles for the sake of lobbing missiles.  

The whole objective is to keep him from killing his own citizens and neighbors in the region, right?

No. The objective is to blame Bush.

Obama did a decent job making his case tonight. I only wish he hadn't stepped on his lund so much at the beginning..

[AquaMan]

Ain't no need to blame Bush for anything other than what was obvious. He made his mistakes, Obama is making his. Neither gets much credit for their good decisions.

I will be pleased if this is handled without military response.

note. I will be even more pleased should he be held responsible for his atrocities by the rest of the world. Any justice is better than none.

[Gaspar]

Why do we keep doing this?


Got no problem with Putin taking the lead and pulling President Obama out of the embarrassment he would otherwise face from Congress, but it seems he's not done with us, and the media is willing to give him as much of a platform as he desires.  There is blood in the water and Putin is an experienced shark.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html?_r=0

http://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/321859-criticism-of-putins-op-ed-builds-among-lawmakers

Putin is #WINNING and we look completely lost. 

Freekin amateur hour in the US!