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SINGLE PAYER IS THE ONLY HEALTHY SOLUTION

Started by FOTD, June 08, 2009, 03:45:44 PM

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FOTD

#90
STUFF! Speaking with a friend today who recalled Nixon was really liberal for a republican. In 1972, he helped enable the horrible health care system we have today by enabling the doctors and the insurance companies through decontrol.


Robust Health Care Reform is the Moment of Truth for Obama and the Democrats

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/24/robust_health_care_reform_is_the_moment_of_truth_f/?ref=fpblg

"If at this remarkable juncture Obama and the Democrats cannot enact a robust health care reform -- with a strong nationwide public option, cost controls, and nearly universal coverage -- I would not want to be in charge of fundraising and mobilization for them in the 2010 and 2012 elections! Most of us who supported them last time will of course not vote for a Republican.. But if Obama and the Democrats cannot act now on a once in a half century challenge and opportunity, they are not worthy of extra energy. And those of us who wrote big checks last time will tell the Democrats -- especially in the Senate -- to hold pharmaceutical fundraisers instead."

"There is no need for "bipartisanship" and the calls for it from some weak-kneed Democrats are merely excuses for doing the business of the medical-insurance establishment. Senators Baucus, Conrad, Feinstein, Nelson, Landrieu, Bayh -- this means you. All of you come from states where people really need robust reform and you should step up."

"Because let's not kid ourselves: WHATEVER passes this year will make the Democrats owners of the health care mess going forward. If they just throw more subsidies and piecemeal regulations into the current system, they will ensure galloping public costs for residual arrangements and for subsidies to private insurers who will easily find ways to avoid sick or costly patients. Businesses and citizens will grow more and more irritated as time passes, and will blame the Democrats. Rightly so."

TWITTER Grassley: In Order For Health Care To Be 'Bipartisan, 'We Need To Make Sure There Is No Public Option'
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/24/grassley-public-plan/\



Grassley's generous health insurance provided for him and his family by the public should be immediately canceled. Let the bastard shop for his own overpriced and skimpy coverage. If he even qualifies for one, because he's old, and probably diseased.
Oh, and screw the bipartisanship.

This "deal" looks worse and worse.


And here's this!
SENATE HEARING
Former CIGNA Exec Has Stinging Words For Health Insurers


http://www.courant.com/business/hc-cigna-potter.artjun25,0,4107201.story

"They confuse their customers and dump the sick — all so they can satisfy their Wall Street investors,"



"Insurers make promises they have no intention of keeping, they flout regulations designed to protect consumers, and they make it nearly impossible to understand — or even to obtain — information we need," Potter's written testimony said.

4 Senators out of 24 showed up..Senators see no evil, hear no evil ... vote for evil.


FOTD

http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/6075

Jesus Would Be An Advocate For A Universal Single Payer Plan

"Whatever you do to the least among us, you do unto me."


Jesus would be an advocate for a universal Single Payer Plan. If Jesus were in the Senate today, only he and Vermont's Bernie Sanders would be backing S 703 for Single Payer. If Jesus were in the House of Representatives, he would have 80 possible comrades on his side on this issue backing HR 676. Jesus was used to standing tall in a true moral minority. Sometimes in a minority of one.

Jesus was a messenger for truth, justice and compassion. And as what happens to most effective messengers telling serious truth to serious power, Jesus was betrayed and crucified. Jesus rose up again.

Jesus would be on the side of 2 out of 3 Americans who actually want a universal Single Payer Plan, though the U.S. corporate media bans any discussion of that, refuses to acknowledge that statistical reality. Just like most of our Congress and the administration pretend that that majority preference isn't so. (It is crazymaking when those we trust ask us to deny reality.)

Our elected representatives took an oath to protect their constituents, but then it seems the vast majority of them took vast amounts of money from corporate lobbies to abandon that commitment. It's been reported that the Democrats received $90 million and the Republicans $65 million from health care and pharmaceutical companies in the last election.


And now our betrayers, who regard such transactions as necessary S-O-P for political survival, are tap dancing fast, eagerly lip-servicing reform with the tease of a "public option," as if that is remotely similar to the sturdy foundation of a true public health care system. As if that is remotely like what every other industrial nation has. As if that would raise us significantly from a disgraceful international ranking of 37th in terms of quality, or not, health care.





Conan71

Quote from: FOTD on July 04, 2009, 02:56:01 PM
http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/6075

Jesus Would Be An Advocate For A Universal Single Payer Plan

"Whatever you do to the least among us, you do unto me."


Jesus would be an advocate for a universal Single Payer Plan. If Jesus were in the Senate today, only he and Vermont's Bernie Sanders would be backing S 703 for Single Payer. If Jesus were in the House of Representatives, he would have 80 possible comrades on his side on this issue backing HR 676. Jesus was used to standing tall in a true moral minority. Sometimes in a minority of one.

Jesus was a messenger for truth, justice and compassion. And as what happens to most effective messengers telling serious truth to serious power, Jesus was betrayed and crucified. Jesus rose up again.

Jesus would be on the side of 2 out of 3 Americans who actually want a universal Single Payer Plan, though the U.S. corporate media bans any discussion of that, refuses to acknowledge that statistical reality. Just like most of our Congress and the administration pretend that that majority preference isn't so. (It is crazymaking when those we trust ask us to deny reality.)

Our elected representatives took an oath to protect their constituents, but then it seems the vast majority of them took vast amounts of money from corporate lobbies to abandon that commitment. It's been reported that the Democrats received $90 million and the Republicans $65 million from health care and pharmaceutical companies in the last election.


And now our betrayers, who regard such transactions as necessary S-O-P for political survival, are tap dancing fast, eagerly lip-servicing reform with the tease of a "public option," as if that is remotely similar to the sturdy foundation of a true public health care system. As if that is remotely like what every other industrial nation has. As if that would raise us significantly from a disgraceful international ranking of 37th in terms of quality, or not, health care.





That's just Ka-razy!

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

FOTD

Guido, Medicare?

Got through 3 seconds of the video while he spewed that "socialism" crap. What's social security? Medicare?

You really need to come up with a better word for it. How's this, Social Democracy?


FOTD

 ALL YOU WHINERS, WIND YOURSELVES UP!
Corporatist Senators will try and make this all DOA.


Obama Open to Partisan Vote on Health-Care Overhaul, Aides Say

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a4.kYDWV9erc

"July 14 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama may rely only on Democrats to push health-care legislation through the U.S. Congress if Republican opposition doesn't yield soon, two of the president's top advisers said.

"Ultimately, this is not about a process, it's about results," David Axelrod, Obama's senior political strategist, said during an interview in his White House office. "If we're going to get this thing done, obviously time is a-wasting."

Both Axelrod and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel said taking a partisan route to enacting major health-care legislation isn't the president's preferred choice. Yet in separate interviews, each man left that option open."

And...The wealthy might have to pay a little bit more of a fair share of their obligation to America? "House health plan to boost taxes on rich."

House rolls out plan to make health care a right

By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR and ERICA WERNER
Associated Press Writers

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HEALTH_CARE_OVERHAUL?SITE=FLMYR&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

"The legislation calls for a 5.4 percent tax increase on individuals making more than $1 million a year, with a gradual tax beginning at $280,000 for individuals. Employers who don't provide coverage would be hit with a penalty equal to 8 percent of workers' wages with an exemption for small businesses. Individuals who decline an offer of affordable coverage would pay 2.5 percent of their incomes as a penalty, up to the average cost of a health insurance plan."

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

FOTD



Insanity at Faux News takes a smackdown.

The GOP just can't get enough of the "S" word. Every time President Obama announces a new policy, they are too quick to shout "Socialism," without realizing what Socialism actually means. Luckily, Mike Papantonio of Air America's Ring of Fire confronted Fox News' Bulls and Bears to inform them that nationalized healthcare does not a socialist nation make.



Ooga booga booga!The health Insurance Companies are so afraid of a rational medical service that they will say and do anything. Do not fall into their clutches again. Health contracting for profit does not work. The big insurers must now go peacefully into the graveyard for useless and vicious scams. But be warned....before they die there will be a huge struggle and spending of lobby money. So many of our congress men will become crooks or maybe bigger crooks.




Conan71

#100
Quote from: guido911 on July 21, 2009, 12:06:46 PM
Obama says the time for talk on healthcare is overm but is clueless as to a key mandate in the house bill:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/07/21/obama_not_familiar_with_key_provision_in_health_care_bill.html



Guido, do you think it's a coincidence the grapic in the background in that video looks eerily similar to Mickey Mouse?  Tasty irony, right? (i.e. Mickey Mouse healthcare, you numpties)

Uh, oh here comes the "hateful white man" police in 3-2-1.....
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

Quote from: Conan71 on July 21, 2009, 02:57:42 PM
Guido, do you think it's a coincidence the grapic in the background in that video looks eerily similar to Mickey Mouse?  Tasty irony, right? (i.e. Mickey Mouse healthcare, you numpties)

Uh, oh here comes the "hateful white man" police in 3-2-1.....

CoCo,

You look authentic in that empty suit. Why do you never offer up any suggestions to solve health care? If you think this is going to be Mickey Mouse Healthcare then what do we have now? And why do you always change the subject?


Please, recognize the junk you are receiving, whether in emails and internet talk boards (anonymous), or in the airwaves (dominated by conservative infrastructure), as the manipulative misinformation and misdirection that it is.



guido911

Quote from: Conan71 on July 21, 2009, 02:57:42 PM
Guido, do you think it's a coincidence the grapic in the background in that video looks eerily similar to Mickey Mouse?  Tasty irony, right? (i.e. Mickey Mouse healthcare, you numpties)


Um, yes.

Back OT, my family has a terrific health and dental plan and I am very pleased with my medical care. Nearly 240 million other Americans have insurance. Why should 75% of this country's population have to give up what they have, or even have to worry about losing what they have, so the other 25% get insurance? How does a single payer system benefit that 75%? More still, why should those that are already paying their own way on insurance pay for health benefits of other persons? Oh wait, I know. We need to punish the successful so the FOTD-type deadbeats/failures/losers can feel successful.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

FOTD

Quote from: guido911 on July 23, 2009, 07:48:41 PM
Um, yes.

Back OT, my family has a terrific health and dental plan and I am very pleased with my medical care. Nearly 240 million other Americans have insurance. Why should 75% of this country's population have to give up what they have, or even have to worry about losing what they have, so the other 25% get insurance? How does a single payer system benefit that 75%? More still, why should those that are already paying their own way on insurance pay for health benefits of other persons? Oh wait, I know. We need to punish the successful so the FOTD-type deadbeats/failures/losers can feel successful.


LOL!!!

Guido....you are obviously in fine PHYSICAL condition. Mental's another issue...PLUS, FOTD thought you'd been gassed by the government. What a tremendous veteran you are not to cost our taxpayers on your impairment.

Are you a "give a hand up" type of American? That's rhetorical ...no response necessary. But, have you had the experience of dealing with Medicare?

You have dealt little with the crooked game playing and the abuse and lack of accountability in health care. This is about the rights of all Americans to health care.  "Mitch McConnell says he's worried the best health care system in the world will begin to ration health care. That's what we already have. They're worried about people having to get in long lines just to get health care. We already have that too." http://wisecountyissues.com/



America deserves better.

FOTD

#104
FOTD WISHES HE HAD A SENATOR AND CONGRESSMAN TO CALL!

Do what this little devil is engaging in. We are calling and explaining because we hail from Oklahoma and our voice is muted by our GOP representation it is important for the dims to stand together on single payer.

Call Congress now: Imminent vote on Single Payer
http://www.democrats.com/friday-key-vote-on-single-payer-healthcare

"A dedicated group of 86 Democrats are fighting for single-payer (H.R. 676), and they need our help today. The battle over single-payer is in the House Energy & Commerce Committee (E&C). The committee was supposed to vote on Rep. Anthony Weiner's single-payer amendment on Monday, but chairman Henry Waxman keeps postponing the vote because it might pass - just like the Kucinich Amendment for a single-payer state option passed on July 17 by a shocking 25-19 bi-partisan majority. Today we're told the vote could be tomorrow (Friday). Can you call the 6 lean yes and convince them to become solid yes on Rep. Anthony Weiner's single-payer amendment in the Energy & Commerce Committee?"

Dems mull skipping panel, bringing healthcare to floor
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/dems-mull-skipping-panel-bringing-healthcare-to-floor-2009-07-23.html


"....At the same time, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has been adamant, even as recently as Thursday morning, that she has the votes to pass the bill on the floor.

Asked about shuffling the healthcare bill right to the floor, Pelosi on Thursday night said: "I don't want to do that."

Energy and Commerce Chairman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) was not immediately available for comment on the idea of scratching the rest of his markup.

At least one member of his panel, though, indicated that she believes the markup will proceed.

"We've been asked to clear our calendars for Saturday," said Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) who joined with six other members of the Committee on Thursday to announce an amendment package they intend to introduce if and when the markup resumes. "I have a busy day in Los Angeles, but I might be spending that busy day in Washington, D.C."