Robbery Hot Spots

[Gaspar]

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=c506ff31-9ce0-45db-8c24-c7449ce27cd2&rss=77

I think when you find yourself living in an apartment complex that imposes a curfew on you, it's time to move.

[inteller]

yeah, that little ghetto over there is where the convienence store owner was shot and killed.  that eastern border of town is scum central.

"The influx of the high Hispanic population living in that area has created a perfect storm," says Sgt. Walker.

WELL NO **** SHERLOCK!

[patric]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=c506ff31-9ce0-45db-8c24-c7449ce27cd2&rss=77

I think when you find yourself living in an apartment complex that imposes a curfew on you, it's time to move.

It amazes me that people still think everything will be better once they crank up the bright floodlights, but that only means more shades will be shut and fewer friendly eyes watching.

Got to have that nice, cozy prison-yard look.[)]

[inteller]

I have a better solution:  Bulldozer and matches.

[dbacks fan]

61st and Peoria ahs been a problem area since the 70's, 23rd and Jackson as well. These two areas have been Section 8 areas since I was a kid in the 60's and 70's. 31st and Mingo started changing in the 80's and 90's, and it was stretching down to 31st and Garnett in the 80's. 41st and 129th doesn't suprise me either, it started to change in the 90's mainly because of the low rent prices in all of the old Hardesty apartments.

[AVERAGE JOE]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

I have a better solution:  Bulldozer and matches.

What's that going to accomplish? The residents would just move somewhere else. Moving the problems around doesn't solve anything.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by AVERAGE JOE

quote:Originally posted by inteller

I have a better solution:  Bulldozer and matches.

What's that going to accomplish? The residents would just move somewhere else. Moving the problems around doesn't solve anything.

you are assuming I was going to give them a chance to vacate first.

[YoungTulsan]

quote:Originally posted by AVERAGE JOE

quote:Originally posted by inteller

I have a better solution:  Bulldozer and matches.

What's that going to accomplish? The residents would just move somewhere else. Moving the problems around doesn't solve anything.

The housing project theory of bunching up disaffected peoples together in a collective dwelling is what causes the problems, pockets of crime, and the unbreakable cycle of poverty.

It would be thoughtful assistance to people to house them across the community, as opposed to the blatant social engineering of the policies government has permeated over past decades that not only don't help the poor, but destroy their lives and opportunities to get out of poverty.

A ghetto spirals downward into a hellhole of crime, poverty, and destitution to the point that Inteller is probably right, the only solution would involve matches and a bulldozer.

Good jobs will always leave the vicinity when there is a concentrated pocket of poverty and crime.  The cycle then solidifies with people who now have no way of finding a job in the close vicinity of where they are living, have no good means of transportation, no prospects, nothing.  Predatory businesses spring up around the pocket of poverty that the government created, such as cash advances, payday loans, pawn shops, ridiculously expensive laundromats, liquor stores, etc.

If there is to be successful government assisted living, it needs to be dispersed through the community, not segregated into pockets.

Nobody deserves to live like that.

[MDepr2007]

An interview yesterday had a detective stating at least half of the robberies are the victims fault.
I say BS to that because everyone has to get out of their car at some point and walk to their door. Being carefull and cautious only gets you part of the way to being safe. Maybe moving would be the other part.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

An interview yesterday had a detective stating at least half of the robberies are the victims fault.
I say BS to that because everyone has to get out of their car at some point and walk to their door. Being carefull and cautious only gets you part of the way to being safe. Maybe moving would be the other part.

the reason he says that is because the victims carry large amounts of cash on them instead of putting it in a bank.  why don't they put it in a bank?  because that would require a legal form of identification to open an account, which is hard to do WHEN YOU ARE ILLEGALLY HERE.

[sauerkraut]

There are other safe way to have cash instead of in your pocket. One way is a cash-card that some employers use and they deposit your paycheck into that. There are also safe-deposit boxes too. Many foreigners (both legal and illegal send alot of money to their home country or to their family living elsewhere), none the less walking around with large wads of cash is not good, they should at least leave the money home when they go out.[B)]

[sauerkraut]

quote:Originally posted by dbacks fan

61st and Peoria ahs been a problem area since the 70's, 23rd and Jackson as well. These two areas have been Section 8 areas since I was a kid in the 60's and 70's. 31st and Mingo started changing in the 80's and 90's, and it was stretching down to 31st and Garnett in the 80's. 41st and 129th doesn't suprise me either, it started to change in the 90's mainly because of the low rent prices in all of the old Hardesty apartments.

That's right and it was mentioned in some article the "Tulsa World" ran a while ago that RiverSide/Peoria area was or is the highest crime area in Tulsa. That surprised me, I did not think of that area as being high crime..  I don't know much about the crime out east since I never go there much. I have seen alot of MS13 gang graffitti on Garnett and 21st and around that area.[xx(]