Grocery Prices...pancakes?

[citizen72]

For years we have concentrated on the store specials called "Lost leaders." When a store for example has canned veggies for say 3/$100, we stock up. Good meat prices? We will buy several. Milk freezes and will keep for months. Remove eggs from  their shells and freeze in zip bags and they will keep for months. Believe me it really adds up and the list goes on and on.

Oh, chicken is the big one for us. When a good lost leader is advertised we will buy more than one packages. The specials happen just often enough that we very seldom have to pay full price.

[cks511]

Well, welcome to reality.  I believe we have been there for a bit.  Oil = Food Prices.  Here are a few of my favorite links.

http://www.peakoil.com/

http://americanenergycrisis.blogspot.com/2008/08/starting-to-get-interesting-again.html

and one I've posted before...

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/

Your conclusions are your own.  I've been pancakes'in for awhile.

[Michael71]

quote:Originally posted by izmophonik

I'm looking for a reality check here guys and gals.  I am married with 4 children, 2 dogs, 2 cats.  The children are 10 months, 3 years, 11 years and 13 years old.......

Keep going until you have twins & see if People Magazine will give you 14mil for the pics.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Not at all.

The credit card crunch comes right after the car loan clampdown.

But Okies still fear Obama and prefer 4 more years of McBush oversight and economic policy.
If it weren't for the oil Barons here, there'd be a whole lot more hurt coming at us.

I see inflation around %22 considering food and energy costs. The republicanized economic numbers will tell you this election season that inflation is running just over %5. DON'T BUY INTO THEIR LIES AGAIN!

Translation:  Bush's fault.

What a surprise, douchebag FOTD or aox blaming Bush.

NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED OR PARANOIDALS!


http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini

Nouriel Roubini's Global EconoMonitor
Barron's Interview and Video with Roubini: "Yes, That's $2 Trillion of Debt-Related Losses"  



"The nub of his argument is that we're suffering the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, and he proceeds to give chilling chapter and verse. He predicts that hundreds of small banks loaded with real estate will go bust and dozens of large regional and national banks will also find themselves in deep do-do."

Now, tell me the Dow was up 331 points today and it was because everyone believes John McCain(R-Idiot) will be our next President and he will restore savings, pay off debt, enable market stability through confidence and leadership.

Can you tell me that?[8]

[Conan71]

Roubini is hardly clairvoyant.  The housing market generally takes a hit about every 15 to 20 years or so.

Now, what did your post have to do with the price of groceries?

[?]

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Roubini is hardly clairvoyant.  The housing market generally takes a hit about every 15 to 20 years or so.

Now, what did your post have to do with the price of groceries?

[?]

It has to do with Guido's comment, Conan.

Home prices drop, credit dries up, etc..... all a viscious cycle and it effects food prices through cost push inflation.

Do you see the price of food going down? Whole Foods stock dropped after hours %14.....how do they bridge the gap? They raise food prices further.

[Hometown]

Imagine what it is like for the working poor and food stamp recipients.  Tulsa is loaded down with poor Whites.  I bet lots of people are going hungry in our fair city.

For years I've been wondering why I haven't seen a general insurrection.

Remember the final days of Daddy Bush and the riot in Los Angeles.  Remember seeing the pictures and thinking this kind of looks like my town.  I think that is what a general insurrection would look like.

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Roubini is hardly clairvoyant.  The housing market generally takes a hit about every 15 to 20 years or so.

Now, what did your post have to do with the price of groceries?

[?]

Roubini's not clairvoyant, but he's been pretty spot-on about our current troubles.  You know you're in trouble when the super-bears are the most accurate pundits in the game.

[sauerkraut]

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur

quote:Originally posted by izmophonik

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar


We've started doing all of our shopping at Sam's.  Buying bulk for several weeks.  It has made a huge difference.

I think I might get a membership and give it a try.  I assume if you're buying for a few weeks you are stuffing your deep freeze?  My fridge can only handle 1 weeks worth of stuff.

I've been a Sam's member for years, but you have to be careful.  Some of the stuff at Sam's is more expensive then other stores.  It's just hard to know that when you are buying items in huge bulk.

Each item is marked with a per ounce, per item, per cup, per pound, .....  price.  Compare that to where you shop to find the better price.

I don't go to Sam's because it is cheaper, although some items are, I go because they carry stuff I can't find other places (like Walmart... go figure).

I talked to an Arrow Trucking friend of mine yesterday and he attributed grocery prices to the cost of fuel, which is killing them too.

The bad thing about Sam's Club is you start off $35.00 in the hole from the membership fee, so it will take alot of shopping to make up for that loss, plus not everything there is  that cheap. I don't ever shop there. Sam's Club is mostly bulk shopping.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Roubini is hardly clairvoyant.  The housing market generally takes a hit about every 15 to 20 years or so.

Now, what did your post have to do with the price of groceries?

[?]

It has to do with Guido's comment, Conan.

Home prices drop, credit dries up, etc..... all a viscious cycle and it effects food prices through cost push inflation.

Do you see the price of food going down? Whole Foods stock dropped after hours %14.....how do they bridge the gap? They raise food prices further.

Which was directed at your moronic comment on the credit crunch and Bush in a topic about grocery prices.

It now costs me double what it used to for truck frieght on anything we ship.

Double the price of fuel for farmers and every leg of the trip of commodities being turned into food, the removal of certain commodities from the feed market for the fuel market, and that pretty much accounts for the rise in grocery prices.

The subprime mortgage fiasco and credit crunch have little or nothing to do with cost push inflation pressures on groceries.  That's so far detached from reality, I'm not even sure why I bother correcting you on it.

Since you are so OT, I might as well indulge since it does have to do with the plight of the consumer:

Did I hear correctly Obama wants to hand out more "chump change" to cope with this?

"- U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama proposed a package of measures on Friday to help workers fight rising energy costs, including an immediate $1,000 tax rebate for low- and middle-income families. "

What are all these no-strings hand-outs going to accomplish in light of everyone's horror with Bush's deficits???

[Chris]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71


Did I hear correctly Obama wants to hand out more "chump change" to cope with this?

"- U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama proposed a package of measures on Friday to help workers fight rising energy costs, including an immediate $1,000 tax rebate for low- and middle-income families. "

What are all these no-strings hand-outs going to accomplish in light of everyone's horror with Bush's deficits???

How could they be any worse than "no-strings hand-outs" to the rich via Bush's tax cuts?

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by Chris

quote:Originally posted by Conan71


Did I hear correctly Obama wants to hand out more "chump change" to cope with this?

"- U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama proposed a package of measures on Friday to help workers fight rising energy costs, including an immediate $1,000 tax rebate for low- and middle-income families. "

What are all these no-strings hand-outs going to accomplish in light of everyone's horror with Bush's deficits???

How could they be any worse than "no-strings hand-outs" to the rich via Bush's tax cuts?

Are you seriously comparing the "no strings hand-outs" in the form of $1000.00 tax rebates to the "rich" getting to keep more of their OWN money because of tax cuts? More class warfare BS.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

And yet, Obama supports turning food into fuel and Pelosi refuses to allow a vote on drilling in ANWR.  No one is doing anything about the big elephant in the room- unrestricted commodity trading.  I really don't give two ****s who let that cat out of the bag, no one is doing anything to put it back in.

No, not all simple solutions, but all things which are contributing to the misery and all we are getting is lip service from our elected  government representatives.

They are either too stupid to figure out what would be appropriate policies or everyone's special interests are keeping anything from happening.

holy **** we agree on something....sound the alarms and batten the hatches!  Obama and all of his cohorts are fruits and frauds.

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by guido911


Are you seriously comparing the "no strings hand-outs" in the form of $1000.00 tax rebates to the "rich" getting to keep more of their OWN money because of tax cuts? More class warfare BS.

Is a "tax rebate" not leaving more of their own money in the pockets of the folks who get it?

Perhaps in the case of the relatively few who pay no income tax, yet get money back, no, but for the vast majority it is just giving back money they paid in.

Of course, when poor people get something rich people get, there are some who scream about handouts. Apparently the poor don't make their own money, they just make rich people's money?

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by nathanm

quote:Originally posted by guido911


Are you seriously comparing the "no strings hand-outs" in the form of $1000.00 tax rebates to the "rich" getting to keep more of their OWN money because of tax cuts? More class warfare BS.

Is a "tax rebate" not leaving more of their own money in the pockets of the folks who get it?

Perhaps in the case of the relatively few who pay no income tax, yet get money back, no, but for the vast majority it is just giving back money they paid in.

Of course, when poor people get something rich people get, there are some who scream about handouts. Apparently the poor don't make their own money, they just make rich people's money?

Oh that's right. The "rich" are getting away with something when they pay less in taxes. Thanks for proving my point about BS class warfare.