Illegal Labor and the City of Tulsa

[papaspot]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

It's interesting reading. Didn't have time to read all of it. Really don't like the use of terms like "liberal wackos" for people who might criticize you, unless you like the term "racist".

Good point. That's the reason I don't bother reading right wing or left wing blogs any more. If you disagree with them, you're a "liberal whacko" or whatever.

[USRufnex]

Food for thought:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/18/AR2006061800613_pf.html

quote:While most of the government's get-tough rhetoric has focused on people illegally crossing the border, others noted, about 40 percent of the nearly 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States entered the country legally on visas and simply stayed. That means they probably can be caught only at work.

Major work-site crackdowns have run into trouble in the past. A spring 1998 sweep that targeted the Vidalia onion harvest in Georgia, and Operation Vanguard, a 1999 clampdown on meatpacking plants in Nebraska, Iowa and South Dakota, provide case studies of how the government fared when confronted by a coalition that included low-wage immigrant workers and the industries that hire them, analysts said.

The Georgia raids netted 4,034 illegal immigrants, prompting other unauthorized workers to stay home. As the $90 million onion crop sat in the field, farmers "started screaming to their local representatives," said Bart Szafnicki, INS assistant district director for investigations in Atlanta from 1991 to 2001.

Georgia's two senators and three of its House members, led by then-Sen. Paul Coverdell (R) and Rep. Jack Kingston (R), complained in a letter to Washington that the INS did not understand the needs of America's farmers. The raids stopped.

quote:Company officials who knowingly employ illegal workers can be fined and, if they continue, face jail time. Housing or harboring illegal workers or laundering money can carry long prison sentences. But the easy availability of fraudulent documents frustrates investigators, as does a law that protects businesses as long as a worker's document "appears on its face to be genuine."

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0605/062105c1.htm

quote:"Worksite enforcement was a low priority for INS and continues to be a low priority for ICE," Richard Stana, director of homeland security and justice issues at the Government Accountability Office, told a House Judiciary subcommittee. "The resources INS and ICE devoted to worksite enforcement have continued to decline."


For example, GAO found that between 1999 and 2003 -- the most recent year for which comparable data was available -- the percentage of "work years" ICE agents spent on worksite enforcement decreased from about 9 percent to about 4 percent. Additionally, the number of notices of intent to fine employers and the number of unauthorized workers arrested at worksites also declined. Between 1999 and 2004, the number of notices of intent to fine employers for improperly completing paperwork or knowingly hiring unauthorized workers decreased from 417 to three.

Too lazy to write my own personal opinion, but this one is pretty darned close...

http://appalachiangreens.blogspot.com/2006/07/illegal-immigrants.html

[Sangria]

If you think people employing the illegals is bothersome, think about this:

The election board does not check out the applications very well. Anyone can fill out the paper and put anything they want on the form. They have to put the last 4 didgets of their SS# and then they are mailed a card to vote.

No one makes sure they are legal citizens to vote.

NOW you should be scared.

[Sangria]

You are worried about the illegals working - that is the tip of the ice burg.

They can also vote and it looks legal. All they have to do is get a form to fill out and put 4 numbers down as the last 4 didgets of their SS#.

I doubt the numbers are ever checked and they are supposed to bring an ID the first time they vote - then they can vote any time without an ID.

We have very few resources to stop them from taking advantage of yet another freedom we pay dearly for while they steal it.