QT Expansion 21st and Harvard

[Robinson]

Does anyone know what is happening with this? Heard they were expanding to 16 pumps, ripping out residences to force fit a south Tulsa plaza at this location.

[cannon_fodder]

Damnit, NO!  I have no idea what's going on with it, but put in another QT at 31st and Louisville ( empty lot) instead of tearing out cool bits of midtown.

[patric]

The original thread under the "Development" category is located at
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6838

[OurTulsa]

Yep Yep, I was able to see the plans they submitted to the TMAPC for a PUD (don't know what agenda it will be on).  Forget about any urban scale on that corner.  The proposed QT at that corner will completely blow it up.   16 pumps and land lots of land.

[buzz words]

Whatever happened to them doing the carwash like in GlennPool?

[YoungTulsan]

quote:Originally posted by buzz words

Whatever happened to them doing the carwash like in GlennPool?

Do not click on this spammer's spam.  This links to nothing about QuikTrip at that location.  It is the same link he posted in the "do me a favor" thread.  Go away.  We don't want you here.

[inteller]

wow, so much for Local Hero QT.  SOunds like they are just out to slap their name on a few buildings and then go rape the town for all its worth.

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[sgrizzle]

As mentioned in the other thread, this may be the last remaining old-style QT. They need to expand or close.

[cannon_fodder]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

As mentioned in the other thread, this may be the last remaining old-style QT. They need to expand or close.

?

Why?

They have TONS of business and have to pull in nearly as much money as any other store with a smaller lot.  Actually, they have as much parking as as many pumps at that location as they do on Harvard.  "have to" is simply not true.  You'd "have to" be mental to close down a business that is constantly turning over customers.

Build another one in the region on an EMPTY lot instead of turning structures in Tulsa into a lot.  It's a business, I wouldn't tell them what to do even if I could - but wipe out those buildings down 21st and that corner is as bland as can be.  Some part of town has to remain cramped and eclectic, instead of open parking lots and sterile.

[sgrizzle]

So they should make substandard profit and keep a whole other set of equipment, displays and signage to keep from tearing down three houses?

[AngieB]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

As mentioned in the other thread, this may be the last remaining old-style QT. They need to expand or close.

51st & Union is old too.

[cannon_fodder]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

They need to expand or close.
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So they should make substandard profit and keep a whole other set of equipment, displays and signage to keep from tearing down three houses?

Those are two different arguments.  They do not NEED to expand or close as they are operating at a profit as is.  They WANT to expand to make more profit, which I explicitly said I would not prohibit even if I had that power.

But that doesn't mean I don't want

1) to protect some unique parts of Tulsa

2) to stop more structures from being turned into concrete lots

and 3) A QT closer to my house occupying an otherwise empty lot.

Again, they should do whatever is in their business interest - but that often includes pandering to the public.  This part of the public (me) would like an alternative route to be taken (which may end up being equally or more profitable).  Nothing more.

[TUalum0982]

quote:Originally posted by TulsaMINI

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

As mentioned in the other thread, this may be the last remaining old-style QT. They need to expand or close.

51st & Union is old too.

as is 51st and Mingo, A pain in the butt trying to get in and out.

[buckeye]

Unique midtown charm?  You mean the Lassiter photography building?  Good grief...that place always left me with an unsettled feeling.  Then I went in for passport photos and from the inside, it looks like a place that does secret kiddy-porn shoots back in the dark corners.  Pretty gnarly...

That building's looked neglected and shabby at least since I've lived here (seven years).

The station itself is often swarmed with people.  When it's busy, good luck turning in safely then finding space in the lot to maneuver to the pumps.  The traffic flow / ingress / egress needs work, I hope they have decent engineers working on it.  That's the real concern, along with the lighting issues already discussed and reasonably polite neighborhood integration.

[breitee]

Why doesn't QT relocate to the opposite corner where May's and Warehouse Market used to be? The building is a pit anyway and they could probably take the old Long John Silvers building as well. Seems like there is more room to spread out on that corner.