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Could INCOG possibly move any slower?

Started by Ibanez, January 03, 2008, 01:09:24 PM

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Ibanez

January 03, 2008, 01:09:24 PM
Been dealing with them on a lot split September and it seems like it is never going to end.

inteller

#1
January 03, 2008, 01:39:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

Been dealing with them on a lot split September and it seems like it is never going to end.



well when I was in there earlier all I could hear was them in a back office gabbing that there was nothing to do in Oklahoma.  sounded like a change of scenery was needed to me.  Maybe they can hop on the forum here and answer your question since they have nothing to do.[}:)]

FOTD

#2
January 03, 2008, 02:02:06 PM
They've sucked for years.....

Ibanez

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January 03, 2008, 02:23:19 PM
One day when I was in there the talk of the office was white chocolate hot chocolate. I can't tell you how long I heard them talking about that while I was sitting in one of the seats waiting to talk to someone. It was at least 20 minutes.

The someone I needed to talk to was of course  deeply involved in the white chocolate hot chocolate conversation with the receptionist. Everyone who walked by got sucked into the vortex of white chocolaty goodness while several of us waited to be helped. It was pathetic.

That coupled with the fact that the staff there seems to take more vacation than even Johnny Carson did back in his heyday.

spoonbill

#4
January 03, 2008, 02:41:19 PM
No one there has anything to fear.  They have the ultimate job security, little or no supervision, and no goals, mission or objective related to performance.

Of course you are going to wait!

Conan71

#5
January 03, 2008, 02:48:49 PM
It's the perfect bureaucratic vacuum.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

inteller

#6
January 03, 2008, 02:56:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

It's the perfect bureaucratic vacuum.



so what can be done to overhaul it?

Conan71

#7
January 03, 2008, 03:05:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

It's the perfect bureaucratic vacuum.



so what can be done to overhaul it?


Same thing you do when a fungus infects a forest.  

Clear cut, burn, re-seed.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

TheArtist

#8
January 03, 2008, 06:52:38 PM
Start yelling at people Reeeeeeeeeeeeally loud and keep at, keep at it, keep at it, it until you see some movement. Usually gets things going for me.
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

Ibanez

#9
January 03, 2008, 10:30:58 PM
I have called twice, once in the morning and once in the afternoon, every business day since December 18th and left a message for the person I have been working with to call me.

They have not.

dggriffi

#10
January 03, 2008, 10:33:43 PM
what is INCOG?

Conan71

#11
January 03, 2008, 10:34:58 PM
I "knowish" two people there.  PM me the details and let me see if I can do something to help out Wavoka.  I'm not promising anything other than I might be able to get someone's attention.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

RecycleMichael

#12
January 04, 2008, 07:05:35 AM
Next time you go, stop in on the first floor and see me at the M.e.t.

I will go up with you and see if I can help as well.
Power is nothing till you use it.

inteller

#13
January 04, 2008, 07:54:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

I "knowish" two people there.  PM me the details and let me see if I can do something to help out Wavoka.  I'm not promising anything other than I might be able to get someone's attention.


well the problem is you shouldn't have to pull strings.  a public service should strive to treat everyone equally.  I have a feeling if you walk in there looking like a developer you will get better treatment.

when I was in there I definitely got the feeling I was bothering them from doing whatever it is they do.  They should do more to project a welcoming atmosphere to the public.

tulsa1603

#14
January 04, 2008, 08:19:09 AM
A few of the ladies down at INCOG are genuinely helpful, but they aren't the ones that do the big jobs, they usually just deal with setback information, etc..  I get the same treatment when I deal with them on variances, which is usually about once a year. I was laughing pretty hard at the white chocolate debate described earlier in the thread, because that sounds exactly like the kind of thing I've heard there.  Reminds me of something you'd see on "The Office".

The same can be said for the building permit office.  Combine AOL instant messenger with people who care only about when their donut break is, and you're gonna get some slugs.

I went with a friend once to pick up an accident report at the downtown police station.  The lady at the desk literally did not even look at us as we stood there, she put her finger up in a "one moment" signal, and finished reading her Perez Hilton article online while we watched.  I've never seen anything like it.

The question is, who are these people accountable to?  Who do you have to file a complaint with to see change?
 
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