Tulsa Firearms makes me sad...

[tulsacyclist]

quote:Originally posted by Hawkins

Not me.

I usually slay the Roast Beef monster, or stalk the KFC chicken at the local drive-thru. []

I like to target shoot, and have a concealed-carry permit. The idea of having a .308 sited in at 200-yards appeals to me for the simple 'because I can' purpose more than actually taking that rifle out and killing for meat, which is something I just don't have time to do anyway.

My favorite handgun right now is the Glock 32. With a 13-round clip, its like holding the firepower of two .357 magnums in one hand. []

Mine is my Glock 26. Not quite the power of your 32 but it's great to conceal. It's also fun and cheap to shoot.

Oh, and my fav rifle right now would be my 'black rifle'. It's fairly new to me and is a blast to take to the range.

For some reason, I was pretty sure I'd not see many gun enthusiasts on these forums. What a pleasant surprise.

[rwarn17588]

I don't have problems with legally owned guns, as long as the owner knows how to use them safely. (I'm lookin' at you, Dick Cheney.)

I think training or a test should be mandatory. Like driver's ed or a driver's test if you want to get behind the wheel. But if you screw up using a gun, you should have your license at least suspended or have "points" go against you. There have to be background checks and other requirements to drive cars. The same sort of criteria should exist for guns, since they're certainly as potentially deadly.

I don't have a gun. But I grew up around many hunters and people who lived way out in the country, far from any sheriff's deputy. I'm fine with guns, as long as they're used correctly.

[Conan71]

I was in Austin a couple of weeks ago and found a 100 yard indoor range on the SW side of town called Red's.  I think it was $15 an hour including one target, .50 for each extra target.
That's the first time I've used an indoor range.  

I usually go shoot at my friend's farm up near Oologah.  His "range" is backed up to a hill, so it's a good, safe shooting environment.  We were shooting magnum rounds out of muzzle-loaders and someone called the Roger's Co. SD.  I think they figured with the percussion and that there was about a 2 minute lapse between shots that someone was playing w/ explosives.  The deputy was fine w/ what was going on and left.  Not the first time the sound of gunfire has gotten them out.

Reasons for having guns?  Home protection and entertainment when I can go out to the "range".

[TheArtist]

I have thought about having a gun.  I enjoyed shooting my M-16 in the army and getting my sharpshooter badge and wanting to try and be better. I would never want to go hunting, target practice fine, but killing an animal... I will leave that to people who are somehow able to do that.  The thought has run through my mind to consider getting a gun for "self defense" purposes, but am more afraid of my temper or the slight manic depressive episode some of us artists are prone to lol, and me going on a rampage than I am of the probablilty of getting shot by someone else. All it could take is the ol combination, "really bad stress day, low blood sugar level, and an idiot driver" .... me having a gun then, not a good idea lol.  Now dont get me wrong, I am not a loose cannon, I usually have a 10 or 15 minute anger episode once, a year or two, at most. Rare and short as they may be, boy are they dooseys lol. As infrequent as they are they are more frequent than any situation that has ever arisen in which I would have needed a gun.  

What is frightening to think about though is those who are just as likely or even more prone to "episodes" than I am but are far less thoughtful or mature enough to be cognizant of their situation.

[rwarn17588]

<The Artist wrote:

I would never want to go hunting, target practice fine, but killing an animal... I will leave that to people who are somehow able to do that.

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Weird. I've never been hunting, but I have killed my share of animals. That's because I grew up on a farm. Sometimes it's for euthanasia purposes, sometimes it's to get rid of varmints, sometimes for butchering (hogs and rabbits; cattle are too darned big to butcher for a small crew with not much equipment).

I occasionally encounter people who say, "If you ever had to kill an animal, you would never eat meat again."

I reply: "But I have, and I have, and still do."

There's this disconnect between many people and their food that I just don't understand.

[sgrizzle]

I don't really WANT to have to kill my food, but I do prefer it to be dead.

[TheArtist]

Oh heck I will absolutely acknowledge I have a disconnect.  I like eating chicken and fish.  But I personally couldn't kill one of either lol.  I am glad there are people like you who can do my dirty work for me so that I dont have to see the poor thing looking me in the eye.  I just want to see parts of it grilled.

[Conan71]

I've bird hunted in the past.  I enjoyed the commeraderie but for the time, effort, mess, and cost, Albertson's makes the most sense.

I'm w/ you Artist.  My favorite form of hunting these days is seeking out the best T-bone at Perry's meat counter.

[S.]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588
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Weird. I've never been hunting, but I have killed my share of animals. That's because I grew up on a farm. Sometimes it's for euthanasia purposes, sometimes it's to get rid of varmints, sometimes for butchering (hogs and rabbits; cattle are too darned big to butcher for a small crew with not much equipment).

I occasionally encounter people who say, "If you ever had to kill an animal, you would never eat meat again."

I reply: "But I have, and I have, and still do."

There's this disconnect between many people and their food that I just don't understand.

First and foremost, I think there is an unhealthy fear of guns and gun ownership out there.  We don't take cars away from everybody because some people aren't responsible with them (think vehicular manslaughter and dui).  I don't see a difference when it comes to guns.  I have been around them my whole life.  I learned to shoot when I was 7 years old.  Started hunting with my dad when I was 8.  Haven't hunted since I was a teenager.  But I do think occasionally about just going to practice, since it -has- been a while.  It's good to know how to handle a gun.  I think if more people did, there would be a lot less fear of them.

As for animals, I have spent a lot of time on our family farm - lived there when I was tiny.  Butchered everything - pigs, cows, chickens.  Like you say, we euthanised, killed rabid animals, etc.  I agree - the disconnect people have from their food source is odd.  I feel blessed that I have the background that I do, because I don't take my food for granted, and I understand the time, care, labor, etc. that goes into producing it.  And I still eat plenty of meat.

Meat and guns.  Great topic!  Lol....

[S.]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

Oh heck I will absolutely acknowledge I have a disconnect.  I like eating chicken and fish.  But I personally couldn't kill one of either lol.  I am glad there are people like you who can do my dirty work for me so that I dont have to see the poor thing looking me in the eye.  I just want to see parts of it grilled.

HA-HA-HA-HA!!!  What honesty!!!  LOL...

[buddyloveusmc]

I have been to tulsa firearms a couple of times and that has to be one of the worst indoor ranges i have ever been to. The ventalation has horrlible, the employyes where rude and there prices on guns where outragous. I now buy all of my guns at TK supply they are a local buissnes and they have the best prices by far of any one else ya'll should give them a call 599-0526 and tell them they need to open a indoor range cause they are some nice guy's there.

[Ed W]

Personally, I don't mind self-promotion when it done in a straight forward manner.

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Permit Number:   886990
Issue Date:   02/15/2007
Expiration Date:   08/31/2007
Classification Code:   I7699
Permit Holder's Name:   BUDDY D TOWNES SR
Business Name:   TK SUPPLY
City/County Identifier:   7281
Physical Street Address:313 S KENOSHA AVE
City Name:TULSA
State:   OK
Zip Code:74120

I've had shooting sessions at Tulsa Firearms, Tulsa Gun Club, and Pershing Hall at RSU in Claremore.  Each range has its positive aspects, but I preferred RSU because it was uncrowded, and that allowed better concentration when I did bullseye shooting.  At the time, I was qualifying on the NRA small bore course, shooting slow fire, timed fire, and rapid fire sequences.  I found that my scores improved over the first hour, then started falling off.  When that happened, my concentration was starting to decline, and it was time to quit for the day.

But that was all some years ago.  These days, when I feel a need to practice, I use a Gamo Compact target air pistol in the garage.  The target air pistol is unforgiving of any shooter's mistakes and it takes the same level of concentration to remain consistently accurate.  I'd recommend on to anyone wanting some practice.

And the Compact dispatches any rats that come into the yard after the dog food without making so much noise that it attracts the Owasso cops too.