Traffic Ticket

[patric]

The Justice Department occasionally requires some police departments to install dashboard cameras as a part of corruption or brutality settlements, but it's not always a solution.

Meanwhile, you could always install your own, or get one of the commercially available "accident cameras" that have a TiVo-like ability to preserve something 30 seconds before you trigger it:

http://www.truscene.com/Products.aspx

http://www.drivecam.com

but these are really more practical for commercial vehicles or fleets.

[Rowdy]

I thought about next time taking pictures of the cop walking back to his car after pulling me over and the surrounding locale(if it happens ever again) since that would have mattered in this case.  However, it would be rare that I would ever need a picture of where I was pulled over in the future. Usually when I have been pulled over in the past, it was deserved.

[Wilbur]

quote:Originally posted by Rowdy

I thought about next time taking pictures of the cop walking back to his car after pulling me over and the surrounding locale(if it happens ever again) since that would have mattered in this case.  However, it would be rare that I would ever need a picture of where I was pulled over in the future. Usually when I have been pulled over in the past, it was deserved.

It sounds like the bigger issue is, why do you keep getting pulled over?  Only one person responsible for that!

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur


It sounds like the bigger issue is, why do you keep getting pulled over?  Only one person responsible for that!

Doesn't matter how may times he does it, he still deserves fair treatment, which he did not get.

[Rowdy]

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur

quote:Originally posted by Rowdy

I thought about next time taking pictures of the cop walking back to his car after pulling me over and the surrounding locale(if it happens ever again) since that would have mattered in this case.  However, it would be rare that I would ever need a picture of where I was pulled over in the future. Usually when I have been pulled over in the past, it was deserved.

It sounds like the bigger issue is, why do you keep getting pulled over?  Only one person responsible for that!

Sounds like you work for the crooked organization by your constant ranting about me being guilty for speeding 4+ over.  I was going 44 in a 40 like I said many times.  I was not cited for that, I was cited for something entirely different. A cop told me I was going 44 in a 25 which was NOT 25. Then, the entire story was misconstrued.

[Wilbur]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur


It sounds like the bigger issue is, why do you keep getting pulled over?  Only one person responsible for that!

Doesn't matter how may times he does it, he still deserves fair treatment, which he did not get.

Based on who's say so?

A person goes to court and admits (to this forum included) he is speeding and expects to get found not guilty, then rants about the entire law enforcement system being corrupt when he's found guilty.

Everyone else is wrong and only he is right.

[rwarn17588]

Rowdy, the minute you admitted you were going 44 in a 40, you lost the argument and the case. You were speeding and thus breaking the law. End of story. Take your medicine and stop whining.

[Rowdy]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Rowdy, the minute you admitted you were going 44 in a 40, you lost the argument and the case. You were speeding and thus breaking the law. End of story. Take your medicine and stop whining.

No one's whining and its obvious you haven't read the entire thread.

[Rowdy]

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur


It sounds like the bigger issue is, why do you keep getting pulled over?  Only one person responsible for that!

Doesn't matter how may times he does it, he still deserves fair treatment, which he did not get.

Based on who's say so?

A person goes to court and admits (to this forum included) he is speeding and expects to get found not guilty, then rants about the entire law enforcement system being corrupt when he's found guilty.

Everyone else is wrong and only he is right.

It is clear you are going to stick with your obstinant attitude. I never admitted to speeding to the courts.  I admitted to this forum that I supposedly was going 44. This is taking the officer for his word which in this case one could doubt that credibility. The issue of the normal speed limit for this road was never brought up and didn't get that far or need to.  If you had a notion of law, you would find that judges do not have the entire city of Tulsa memorized with every speed limit in place.

Normal speed limits are usually 40mph.  However, this road could have been 45 for all he knew.  The judge does not look up the speed limit in his magic "YE OLDE TULSA SPEED LIMIT REFERENCE MANUAL" to find out.  This would have been asked of the officer by the prosecution. It was never asked because it was all due to the lowered limit of 25mph. No one said "well, you DID go over by 4mph, so you're guilty of something anyway." To say I should just deal with it because I was 4mph over anyway is just plain stupid.  You must not have read all my posts because I have said time and time again that there is a difference between 19mph over versus 4mph over.  

Your mindset that I should just accept 2 points on my perfect driving record and a much larger fine because "hey, I'm guilty anyway" is utter foolishness. A cop normally doesn't pull someone over for 4 over. 4mph=0 points and lower fine.19mph=2 points and large fine.  You do the math.

[Wilbur]

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"Yes, Daddy"

"Are you pregnant?"

"Just a little."

[patric]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Rowdy, the minute you admitted you were going 44 in a 40, you lost the argument and the case. You were speeding and thus breaking the law. End of story. Take your medicine and stop whining.

Convicting him of going 44 in a 25 zone because he's guilty of going 44 in a 40 zone is an irrational leap, and would make as much sense as, for instance, saying it was OK to kill the fleeing man shot in the back last week because he was guilty of being an illegal alien.

[inteller]

Rowdy, you got ripped off, plain and simple.  I think everything presented here just shows that TPD and the court system that SUPPORTS them is a crooked racket.  Only a blind fool could agree with this ticket.  There was no sign saying it was 25, plain and simple.

[Wilbur]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

Rowdy, you got ripped off, plain and simple.  I think everything presented here just shows that TPD and the court system that SUPPORTS them is a crooked racket.  Only a blind fool could agree with this ticket.  There was no sign saying it was 25, plain and simple.

The entire community should hope you don't have that attitude if you ever serve on a jury.  You hear one side of the story and take it for gospel and convict the other party without hearing all the facts.  Pathetic!

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur

quote:Originally posted by inteller

Rowdy, you got ripped off, plain and simple.  I think everything presented here just shows that TPD and the court system that SUPPORTS them is a crooked racket.  Only a blind fool could agree with this ticket.  There was no sign saying it was 25, plain and simple.

The entire community should hope you don't have that attitude if you ever serve on a jury.  You hear one side of the story and take it for gospel and convict the other party without hearing all the facts.  Pathetic!

I support rowdy because I drive through that area and can 100% confirm there was no 25mph speed limit sign and no construction zone signs in the area he was pulled over in. I just got off a jury where I was the toughest person on it.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur

quote:Originally posted by inteller

Rowdy, you got ripped off, plain and simple.  I think everything presented here just shows that TPD and the court system that SUPPORTS them is a crooked racket.  Only a blind fool could agree with this ticket.  There was no sign saying it was 25, plain and simple.

The entire community should hope you don't have that attitude if you ever serve on a jury.  You hear one side of the story and take it for gospel and convict the other party without hearing all the facts.  Pathetic!

you are a tool.

I hope I never serve on a jury, because I have much better things to do.  But if I ever get suckered into one, you better believe I will use COMMON SENSE to make my decisions, and not use scummy favoritism towards the LE.