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Americas most walkable cities.

Started by TheArtist, March 08, 2007, 10:41:47 PM

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TheArtist

Just another of those ranking thingeys where Tulsa was at the bottom. At least we can take comfort that we beat out OKC,,, for now.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/08/walkable.cities.ap/index.html


http://www.prevention.com/article/0,5778,s1-2-92-752-7792-6,00.html
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deinstein

That list is iffy. Charlotte 4th? I don't think so. I don't see Portland, OR or New York City in the top ten either.

USRufnex

Wow.  That just doesn't compute at all.  

How is Indianapolis more "walkable" than Chicago?  Dallas, Phoenix, L.A. and Wichita are somehow more walkable than Chicago??

How is Tulsa more "walkable" than Rochester, NY-- I'm making that comparison because I nearly moved to Rochester last summer and found areas that were much more walkable than anything I've seen in Tulsa so far...

Who got bribed?


I could go on... and on... and on...

NCTulsan

What the f*ck!  Charlotte 4th?  This study is a crock.  I've lived in Charlotte 6 years and can honestly say even Tulsa is more walkable than Charlotte, albeit both near the bottom.
 

TheArtist

Well they did use some criteria that, while good for a city to have, don't necessarily mean one city is more walkable than another. They should have included something about sidewalks and trails along main streets.  The "points of interest" thing probably killed us, along with the "use of mass transit".  While using mass transit may not at first seem like it would add to walking, it does because you walk to and from the stations and it usually implies some sort of density and walkabale areas.  Though its hard to judge an entire city this way.  What do they divide these criteria by the number of square miles in a city?  If so there may be lot of undeveloped square miles in one city versus another, or just a larger number of square miles per population and criteria. There are some areas of Tulsa that are very walkable like in midtown, but others that are like obstacle courses where you take your life in hand if you were to try and get around in like 71st Memorial, Mingo etc..  

http://www.prevention.com/article/0,5778,s1-2-92-752-7792-1,00.html
"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h

cannon_fodder

"Rankings based on such factors as air quality, parks, athletic shoes sold, weather."

Well that's just retarded.  Tulsa has lots of parks and pretty nice weather, so all we need to do to make ourselves the most walkable city in America is to improve our air quality and sell more athletic shoes?

That's just stupid.  Never mind the fact that in half the cities near the top you cant walk to work, school, or fun.  But in NYC/Chicago and many other cities (Key West for one) you most often walk where ever you are going.

New York ranked low because of weather?  pancakes! Madison is farkin' FREAZING.  

Madison is one giant college campus.  Of course you walk everywhere!  Lets stick TU, OKCU, OU, OSU, ORU, NSU, and TCC all together on one campus... that's what Madison is.  

Duh.
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deinstein

Tulsa would never make this list. We are one of the least sustainable cities in the country.

YoungTulsan

We are only walkable in the sense that you can drive someone, then get out and walk.
 

robbyfoxxxx

It's a farce, I mean Tulsans have to practically pull teeth just to get builders to build their buildings up next to the sidewalk, this list is impossible,alot of these "top 10 list" are payed for by the chamber of commerce of cities, That all I gotta say.

deinstein

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Originally posted by NCTulsan

What the f*ck!  Charlotte 4th?  This study is a crock.  I've lived in Charlotte 6 years and can honestly say even Tulsa is more walkable than Charlotte, albeit both near the bottom.



That's actually not true anymore. Charlotte has done a lot recently to improve this. There was a great article in the Sierra Club a few months ago about it. My least favorite city in my home state though. I'll stay up in the I-40 corridor. [:D]

NCTulsan

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Originally posted by deinstein

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Originally posted by NCTulsan

What the f*ck!  Charlotte 4th?  This study is a crock.  I've lived in Charlotte 6 years and can honestly say even Tulsa is more walkable than Charlotte, albeit both near the bottom.



That's actually not true anymore. Charlotte has done a lot recently to improve this. There was a great article in the Sierra Club a few months ago about it. My least favorite city in my home state though. I'll stay up in the I-40 corridor. [:D]



I'll give you that.  However, due to Charlotte's cow-trail growth patterns for so many years, it had a lot further to go than a city like Tulsa which is laid-out in a more systematic way, upon a township-and-range system complete with regular mid-mile collectors and more urban densities.  I think walkability factors more than just sidewalks ..... it also has to do with connectivity.  Both cities have a long way to go, Charlotte started from a greater disadvantage, Charlotte is doing more to combat it than Tulsa.  I still feel Tulsa has a slight upper-hand in terms of current status.
 

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