TULSA's C Streeters: THE GATHERING!?

[FOTD]

Who here believes in the Koran?

None of you. Does that fact make you agnostic or atheist? yep.

Too bad if you don't take "a church for the city" as an omen. Wait and we will see.

It's a free cuntry entitling us to the freedom from oppressive voodoo science based on 2000 year superstitions, from prostelytizing megalomaniacs, and from constitutional meddlers.

Most these dicks will use the internet and their networks and their web for spreading hate. It does nothing for the city of Tulsa's attractiveness.

You are free to believe what you want. Respect my right too.

This article is a year old and pre-election, but still interesting. White Evangelicals ARE the modern Republican party. What McCain and other Republican party leaders didn't understand is that by choosing a candidate like (Moose-lini) Palin as his running mate, he split the evangelical population between old-style fundamentalists and the new theology, demon-chasing, spiritual warfare, rule-the-world dominionists (like Palin herself). By splitting evangelicals into competing camps, McCain actually helped the Democrats.
White Christian America Versus Everybody Else
http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2008093604/white-christian-america-versus-everybody-else

[TURobY]

Who here believes in the Koran?

None of you. Does that fact make you agnostic or atheist? yep.

What? Why haven't you answered the question as to why this particular church should stand out moreso than any other church?

[FOTD]

What? Why haven't you answered the question as to why this particular church should stand out moreso than any other church?

It's a pre emptive assault on a potential constitutional conflict involving religious zealots. OK?

It sure has garnered some interesting responses. Except from that TNF egomaniac insider Bates. His response was a personal attack on the devil. Shameful!

[Conan71]

Who here believes in the Koran?

None of you. Does that fact make you agnostic or atheist? yep.

No, in their culture, I believe it makes you an "infidel".

[dbacks fan]

I read the link that you posted, and then some other of Sara Robinson's opinions on the blog you linked to, and I have to say that I am a white, male, 46 year old Christian, who turned 18 during the era of Reaganomic's and I have to say that I do not fit into her description of what I should be.

Also, I think you failed to notice the fact that she is not, I repeat, NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. She is from Vancouver, British Columbia. She can voice all of the opinions she wants, but if she has not become a US Citizen, and has a legal right to vote, it will always be her opinion. I am a firm believer in the fact that if you are not a registered voter, you can comment all you want, but if you did not vote, then your complaint is VOID.

[FOTD]

No, in their culture, I believe it makes you an "infidel".

In our culture, it makes you a non believer.

[FOTD]

I read the link that you posted, and then some other of Sara Robinson's opinions on the blog you linked to, and I have to say that I am a white, male, 46 year old Christian, who turned 18 during the era of Reaganomic's and I have to say that I do not fit into her description of what I should be.

Also, I think you failed to notice the fact that she is not, I repeat, NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. She is from Vancouver, British Columbia. She can voice all of the opinions she wants, but if she has not become a US Citizen, and has a legal right to vote, it will always be her opinion. I am a firm believer in the fact that if you are not a registered voter, you can comment all you want, but if you did not vote, then your complaint is VOID.

SO WHAT! White Evangelicals ARE the modern Republican party.

[dbacks fan]

http://www.ourfuture.org/user/11090/full

She was born in CA, but now resides in BC. (my mistake.)


Sara's Bio
Job Title:
Fellow, Campaign for America's Future
Website:
Orcinus
Favorite Quote:
"I was then persuaded, and remain confirmed, that the voice of honest indignation is the voice of God. I cared not for consequences, but wrote."
-- William Blake

Sara Robinson is one of the few trained social futurists in North America, and will complete her MS in Futures Studies from the University of Houston in 2009. Her skill set includes trend analysis, scenario development, futures research, social change theories, systems thinking, and strategic planning. She holds a BA in Journalism from the USC Annenberg School of Communication, and has worked as a columnist or editor for several national magazines.

Sara has blogged on authoritarian and extremist movements at Orcinus since 2006; and is a founding member of Group News Blog, the successors to Steve Gilliard's original News Blog, where she still posts occasional lighter and more personal pieces. Her recent work has also appeared online at Firedoglake, DailyKos, OpenLeft, and Alternet; and in print at The Progressive Christian and Survival: The Journal of the International Institute of Strategic Studies. She is a consulting partner with the Cognitive Policy Works in Seattle, and a Fellow at the Campaign for America's Future.

A native of California's High Sierra, Sara spent 20 years in Silicon Valley before moving to Vancouver, BC in 2004. She shares her home with her husband Evan, two teenagers, and a Norwegian Buhund who is her constant companion.

[junk2bj]

Is this the church that we are talking about?
http://www.thegatheringtulsa.com/

If so, I'd be happy to answer questions about it...I'm been part of it from the beginning.
Our website had a jump in traffic and we tracked it down...it's been fun reading the posts.

A couple of thoughts:
         We are 3 years old as a church, primarily 20-30 somethings
         We are a 501(c)3
         Not trying to mix church and state in any way
         Christian, but not necessarily "emergent"
         We rent offices and a place to have worship gatherings (different buildings).
         For us..."A Church for the City" means that we love Tulsa and seek to serve (homeless, powerless, etc)

Has anyone on here ever been?

[dbacks fan]

SO WHAT! White Evangelicals ARE the modern Republican party.

Let's, get one thing straight, I said I am a Christian, that does not mean that I am an evangelical, or that I share the views of the evangelicals. I have had way too many experiences with God loving evangelicals, spreading their fear and hate and telling me how I should act, vote, respect, and who's going to heaven and who isn't because the are gay, interacial, and in some cases married to non-americans. It makes me wonder what it is they are so affraid of, when they say "Love your neighbor if they are like you, if not change them to be like you" (paraphrasing)  My favorite was my ex mother inlaw who was a long time member of Victory Christian, who told me that "Every time your son cries, God keeps his tears in a jar, and those tears are going to send you to Hell when you die."

[Conan71]

Is this the church that we are talking about?
http://www.thegatheringtulsa.com/

If so, I'd be happy to answer questions about it...since I serve as Lead Pastor.
Our website had a jump in traffic and we tracked it down...it's been fun reading the posts.

A couple of thoughts:
         We are 3 years old as a church, primarily 20-30 somethings
         We are a 501(c)3
         Not trying to mix church and state in any way
         Christian, but not necessarily "emergent"
         We rent offices and a place to have worship gatherings (different buildings).
         For us..."A Church for the City" means that we love Tulsa and seek to serve (homeless, powerless, etc)

Has anyone on here ever been?

No I have not been.  Sorry the athiest village idiot who speaks of himself in the third person has taken you guys to task.

Thank you for clarifying that your church is not about to overthrow the local government.

[Conan71]

Dback, don't waste your time.  I think he's been self-medicating again.

[FOTD]

Is this the church that we are talking about?
http://www.thegatheringtulsa.com/

If so, I'd be happy to answer questions about it...I'm been part of it from the beginning.
Our website had a jump in traffic and we tracked it down...it's been fun reading the posts.

A couple of thoughts:
         We are 3 years old as a church, primarily 20-30 somethings
         We are a 501(c)3
         Not trying to mix church and state in any way
         Christian, but not necessarily "emergent"
         We rent offices and a place to have worship gatherings (different buildings).
         For us..."A Church for the City" means that we love Tulsa and seek to serve (homeless, powerless, etc)

Has anyone on here ever been?

BRAVO! A coherent reply to a simple inquiry. Then we wish you well.

This devil just loves flushing out the camouflaged Republicants and the TNF over lords and the regular duches.

One question. Have you ever asked others to dispose of what you perceive as religious symbols you do not agree with?

[dbacks fan]

Dback, don't waste your time.  I think he's been self-medicating again.

I know, just got frustrated and vented. I hear he could get cheap air fare to the Baja Peninsula, but the weather might not be so great.

[TURobY]

This devil just loves flushing out the camouflaged Republicants and the TNF over lords and the regular duches.

Who are these "camouflaged Republicants" that you speak of on this forum? I'm pretty sure that nearly every active poster's politcal views are fairly well-known.