On the bright side

[AMP]

http://www.thinkenergygroup.com/think.nsf/jobs1?openform&v=(dav)&cat=WELDING%20ENGINEER&Count=1000

You will need to cut and paste the entire URL into your browser address box.  This software wants to cut it to the dot com only.  

That should take you to the welding positions page complete with current per hour salary.

I quoted what the men from Illinois told me while I was visiting in Daytona Beach, Florida. I have no reason to not trust what they told me.  I have done business in Illinois, made several trips there over the past 10 years.  I know business owners and others in Illinois, and their Blue Collar positions do very well there as compared to here.  

Plus you don't have to pay Turnpike Fees to travel on the majority of their highways.    

Main complaint of people we do business with that travel into Oklahoma for events is the Turnpike Fees.  Most tow two or more axle trailers that run their Toll Fees upward of $10 each time they reach a toll booth.  But that is another story.

[Artiem]

quote:More bright news coming?

AA maintenance facility is announcing a "major development" Monday morning. AA and union reps will both be there. I'll try to post a synopsis when I find out just what's up...

As promised... here's the info from AA:

FOR RELEASE: Monday, Dec. 18, 2006

AMERICAN AIRLINES MAINTENANCE SERVICES, ALLEGIANT AIR

ENTER INTO LONG-TERM CONTRACT



       TULSA, Okla. – American Airlines Maintenance Services and Allegiant Air have signed a five-year comprehensive maintenance agreement, valued at $50 million, that covers a variety of services.

       The long-term contract includes aircraft maintenance such as "Heavy C" overhaul checks for Allegiant's current fleet of 21 MD80 aircraft, plus additional MD80 aircraft as Allegiant grows.  

       The agreement calls for American to provide engineering services, planning services, technical services, reliability services, component maintenance, plus landing gear.

        "This is a perfect example of the range of services that AA Maintenance Services can provide," said Bob Reding, American's Senior Vice President of Technical Services.  "With our array of hangars and support shops, our technical expertise and the best work force in the industry, we can offer customers quality 'one-stop shopping.'"

       Mike Baxter, Allegiant's Senior Vice President Technical Operations, said, "One reason we chose AA Maintenance Services for the long term was because it offers value.   We looked at the total value of the package.  Not only is the workmanship and materials of the highest quality, but we get our aircraft returned in a timely manner, meaning they can be back in revenue service sooner."

       Carmine Romano, Vice President of American's overhaul base in Tulsa, said, "This contract represents another step toward becoming a World Class MRO, and that is very important to our employees, our customers and our stakeholders."

       Romano said the initial work will add one continuous dock line, with the potential of two docks, depending upon Allegiant's fleet growth.

 
       Dennis Burchette, Vice President of Transport Workers Union Local 514 in Tulsa, said, "A long-term contract such as this one demonstrates that the customer has great confidence in American's maintenance personnel to perform quality work in a timely manner.  Allegiant will not be disappointed."

       American Airlines and the Transportation Workers Union, representing the
airline's maintenance workers, have partnered in the past three years to develop a team concept called Working Together.  Using the principles of Continuous Improvement, the maintenance team has increased productivity throughout the maintenance organization.  Reversing the outsourcing trend now prevalent in the U.S. airline industry, American has been able to seek out and win third party work, such as the Allegiant contract.

       AA Maintenance Services offers a full line of airframe, engine and component, and line maintenance services, customizing those services to meet the specific needs of the client. American's MRO business has 62 customers - 80 percent of which are repeat business - located in North and South America.  Services are provided by all three of American's overhaul bases in Tulsa, Okla.; Fort Worth, Texas; Kansas City, MO., and at line maintenance locations in the United States, Latin America and Europe.      

       Allegiant Air is a low-cost, low fare airline offering services from various small cities, principally to and from Las Vegas, Nev., and Orlando and St. Petersburg, FL.  




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[rwarn17588]

<AMP wrote:

I quoted what the men from Illinois told me while I was visiting in Daytona Beach, Florida. I have no reason to not trust what they told me. I have done business in Illinois, made several trips there over the past 10 years. I know business owners and others in Illinois, and their Blue Collar positions do very well there as compared to here.

Plus you don't have to pay Turnpike Fees to travel on the majority of their highways.

Main complaint of people we do business with that travel into Oklahoma for events is the Turnpike Fees. Most tow two or more axle trailers that run their Toll Fees upward of $10 each time they reach a toll booth. But that is another story.

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Your friends from Illinois shouldn't throw stones in glass houses when they complain about toll roads.

Here are toll roads in the Land of Lincoln:

-- Interstate 90
-- Interstate 88
-- Interstate 355
-- Interstate 94 / 294

Illinois also has a mess of toll bridges and ferries over its rivers.

[cannon_fodder]

AMP - THe webiste you linked to pays NO WHERE NEAR the claim made.  THe highest position is the Project Manager (in IL) at $120K a year.  $30K short of the welders you met in Daytona.

Furthermore, I didnt say your pals from IL were not telling the truth, I simply said that if they were telling the truth... they were among the top wage earners for welders in the nation.  Easily within the top of the top 1%.

If a welder in IL made $60 an hour and averaged a 50 hour work week... why in the hell would there be any engineers, accountants, lawyers, or other professionals in IL when none of those progessions make (on average) anywhere near that.  THe claim doesnt even pass the common sense or 'sniff test' and hence, is either a rare example, or simply not true.  Drunk bikers in Daytona sometimes lie. The statistics, on the other hand, are neither drunk nor known for being false.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

AMP - THe webiste you linked to pays NO WHERE NEAR the claim made.  THe highest position is the Project Manager (in IL) at $120K a year.  $30K short of the welders you met in Daytona.

Furthermore, I didnt say your pals from IL were not telling the truth, I simply said that if they were telling the truth... they were among the top wage earners for welders in the nation.  Easily within the top of the top 1%.

If a welder in IL made $60 an hour and averaged a 50 hour work week... why in the hell would there be any engineers, accountants, lawyers, or other professionals in IL when none of those progessions make (on average) anywhere near that.  THe claim doesnt even pass the common sense or 'sniff test' and hence, is either a rare example, or simply not true.  Drunk bikers in Daytona sometimes lie. The statistics, on the other hand, are neither drunk nor known for being false.

They might earn that much if they are welding in a vacuum on very, very exotic metals for the space program.  I think they were pissing in AMP's boot, personally.

I think AMP also is confusing his personal lack of fortunes with the overall picture of the economy.  AMP, maybe you aren't offering a viable service anymore and need to consider something else.  Somehow, in lieu of your comments about Tulsa and the economy sucking, there are a bunch of people out there making good wages.

[swake]

I actually do know of a drunk Biker from Chicago who works for a concrete company and makes at least that much. If you want to know he was able to find a job like that, well, fagedabodit.

Sometimes in Chicago there are special pay rates for certain people.......

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by swake

I actually do know of a drunk Biker from Chicago who works for a concrete company and makes at least that much. If you want to know he was able to find a job like that, well, fagedabodit.

Sometimes in Chicago there are special pay rates for certain people.......

Buzz Dalesandro used to like to brag that his family was in the "concrete business" in Chicago. []

[swake]

From KOTV, more jobs

Whirlpool To Move Production Of Some Products From Tennessee Plant To Tulsa


AP - 1/5/2007 10:19 AM - Updated 1/5/2007 10:22 AM

BENTON HARBOR, Mich. (AP) _ Appliance maker Whirlpool Corp. said Friday it will eliminate about 370 jobs when it moves production of certain freestanding cooking products from a facility in Tennessee to other plants in Tulsa, Oklahoma and Mexico.

The jobs will be eliminated at a facility in Cleveland, Tenn. Most of the eliminated jobs are expected to be absorbed through normal attrition and a reduction of temporary positions, Whirlpool said.

An unknown number of new jobs will be added at the company's Tulsa, Oklahoma facility, while the specific Mexican location has yet to be finalized. The changes are expected to be completed in 2007.

Whirlpool officials said the move is designed to improve the company's productivity and efficiency in North America.

[guido911]

You are doing it again.

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

You are doing it again.

Your sarcasm is wearing very thin. Try a new change of clothes.