If Dillard's goes down

[azbadpuppy]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by nathanm

Originally posted by Jonette
Edited to add: Target is hurting because people feel poor at the moment. Most people refuse to pay for quality when they feel poor.

most people refuse to pay for bull**** when they are rich too, which is all target is peddling.  You know what the only thing of higher quality is in the store?  The shopping carts.

The MDF build it yourself shelves are just as ****ty at target as they are wal-mart.  The difference is target glazes thiers with a IKEA maple finish or throws on some brushed aluminum accents.  Thats not quality, that's lipstick on a pig.

target does well when it can because it fluffs people's ego.  You are shopping at a ****ing big box store.  There is nothing "superior" or "better" to that.  If you want to feel better about yourself because you think you are spending more for "quality", go shop at Utica Square.  but puh-lease, spare me the antics that target is oh so much better than Wal-mart....just because it isn't walmart.

I don't go shopping to "fluff my ego", but if I were I would go to Wal-Mart. Watching that spectacle always makes me feel better about myself. [}:)]

Seriously though, if I need certain household items and find it necessary to go to a big box, I will choose Target over Wal-mart any day of the week. Target has far superior house brand groceries at very good prices, and they also have a decent wine selection. If all I cared about was getting everything at the cheapest price, I would probably go to Wal-mart, but I don't because IMO, Target is a better value for what you get.

I'm surprised at your contempt for Target and the people who shop there. After all, Targets now house your favorite coffee shop- Starbucks []

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by nathanm

Originally posted by Jonette
Edited to add: Target is hurting because people feel poor at the moment. Most people refuse to pay for quality when they feel poor.

most people refuse to pay for bull**** when they are rich too, which is all target is peddling.  You know what the only thing of higher quality is in the store?  The shopping carts.

The MDF build it yourself shelves are just as ****ty at target as they are wal-mart.  The difference is target glazes thiers with a IKEA maple finish or throws on some brushed aluminum accents.  Thats not quality, that's lipstick on a pig.

target does well when it can because it fluffs people's ego.  You are shopping at a ****ing big box store.  There is nothing "superior" or "better" to that.  If you want to feel better about yourself because you think you are spending more for "quality", go shop at Utica Square.  but puh-lease, spare me the antics that target is oh so much better than Wal-mart....just because it isn't walmart.

You say that, but I can buy clothes at Target that are actually well made and will last for more than a week and not look like ****. (As in, they are cut correctly)

I can buy a lamp that doesn't break in 6 months. I can buy a TV stand that doesn't start sagging in less than a year. Or a beard trimmer that lasts more than a few months.

I've been to both places and bought the same sort of **** from both. (can you say the same?) The stuff at Target actually lasts a few years, thus serving the purpose of cheap junk. If I wanted truly quality stuff, I'd go somewhere that sold furniture made out of real wood and electronics designed with something other than price in mind.

I hate wandering around target only slightly less than wal-mart though. I hate enormous stores. I shop smaller stores or online, usually.

I have bought one or two things from Wal-Mart that didn't break after a very short time. One of them was a lava lamp. The other was a Pyrex baking dish. Oh, and I still have some sheets that are in reasonably good condition given their origin.

I do have a TV from Sam's, but it wasn't manufactured to WMT specs and I ordered it online to avoid going into the enormity of the place. I also regularly buy canned air from Sam's, since it's essentially the only place one can buy some at a reasonable price.

I hate shopping there, but I'll do it a couple times a year.

BTW, inteller..are you sure you don't live in Bentonville? [B)]

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by nathanm

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by nathanm

Originally posted by Jonette
Edited to add: Target is hurting because people feel poor at the moment. Most people refuse to pay for quality when they feel poor.

most people refuse to pay for bull**** when they are rich too, which is all target is peddling.  You know what the only thing of higher quality is in the store?  The shopping carts.

The MDF build it yourself shelves are just as ****ty at target as they are wal-mart.  The difference is target glazes thiers with a IKEA maple finish or throws on some brushed aluminum accents.  Thats not quality, that's lipstick on a pig.

target does well when it can because it fluffs people's ego.  You are shopping at a ****ing big box store.  There is nothing "superior" or "better" to that.  If you want to feel better about yourself because you think you are spending more for "quality", go shop at Utica Square.  but puh-lease, spare me the antics that target is oh so much better than Wal-mart....just because it isn't walmart.

You say that, but I can buy clothes at Target that are actually well made and will last for more than a week and not look like ****. (As in, they are cut correctly)

I can buy a lamp that doesn't break in 6 months. I can buy a TV stand that doesn't start sagging in less than a year. Or a beard trimmer that lasts more than a few months.

I've been to both places and bought the same sort of **** from both. (can you say the same?) The stuff at Target actually lasts a few years, thus serving the purpose of cheap junk. If I wanted truly quality stuff, I'd go somewhere that sold furniture made out of real wood and electronics designed with something other than price in mind.

I hate wandering around target only slightly less than wal-mart though. I hate enormous stores. I shop smaller stores or online, usually.

I have bought one or two things from Wal-Mart that didn't break after a very short time. One of them was a lava lamp. The other was a Pyrex baking dish. Oh, and I still have some sheets that are in reasonably good condition given their origin.

I do have a TV from Sam's, but it wasn't manufactured to WMT specs and I ordered it online to avoid going into the enormity of the place. I also regularly buy canned air from Sam's, since it's essentially the only place one can buy some at a reasonable price.

I hate shopping there, but I'll do it a couple times a year.

BTW, inteller..are you sure you don't live in Bentonville? [B)]

You're gonna get what you pay for at either place.  If you buy crap, it's gonna perform/last like crap.  Literally.

I've bought way too much stuff from Wal Mart that works to even subscribe to your notion that virtually everything you bought at Wal Mart broke within six months.  Were you dropping it on the floor every day to test durability?

Like it or not, the Wal Mart model is what a lot of retail stores strive to be.  Target could only wish they could leverage that kind of buying power that Wallyworld can.  If they had to sell the same items at Wal Mart prices they'd be bankrupt inside of 18 months.

I'm all for other stores and competition of course, but to vilify one store just because they are popular and make a profit is ludicrous.  And in these economic times, Wal Mart will make a killing because they skim their bottom line from labor, which is one thing I hate about them.  But, OTOH, they do provide jobs to many people who otherwise wouldn't be working.

And I've bought clothes from Wal Mart.  There, I said it.

But, I do read the labels and buy brands that other stores carry.  Why is it Wal Mart sells them for less?  Because they can.

I just don't expect the same kind of customer service from them.

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by nathanm

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by nathanm

Originally posted by Jonette
Edited to add: Target is hurting because people feel poor at the moment. Most people refuse to pay for quality when they feel poor.

most people refuse to pay for bull**** when they are rich too, which is all target is peddling.  You know what the only thing of higher quality is in the store?  The shopping carts.

The MDF build it yourself shelves are just as ****ty at target as they are wal-mart.  The difference is target glazes thiers with a IKEA maple finish or throws on some brushed aluminum accents.  Thats not quality, that's lipstick on a pig.

target does well when it can because it fluffs people's ego.  You are shopping at a ****ing big box store.  There is nothing "superior" or "better" to that.  If you want to feel better about yourself because you think you are spending more for "quality", go shop at Utica Square.  but puh-lease, spare me the antics that target is oh so much better than Wal-mart....just because it isn't walmart.

You say that, but I can buy clothes at Target that are actually well made and will last for more than a week and not look like ****. (As in, they are cut correctly)

I can buy a lamp that doesn't break in 6 months. I can buy a TV stand that doesn't start sagging in less than a year. Or a beard trimmer that lasts more than a few months.

I've been to both places and bought the same sort of **** from both. (can you say the same?) The stuff at Target actually lasts a few years, thus serving the purpose of cheap junk. If I wanted truly quality stuff, I'd go somewhere that sold furniture made out of real wood and electronics designed with something other than price in mind.

I hate wandering around target only slightly less than wal-mart though. I hate enormous stores. I shop smaller stores or online, usually.

I have bought one or two things from Wal-Mart that didn't break after a very short time. One of them was a lava lamp. The other was a Pyrex baking dish. Oh, and I still have some sheets that are in reasonably good condition given their origin.

I do have a TV from Sam's, but it wasn't manufactured to WMT specs and I ordered it online to avoid going into the enormity of the place. I also regularly buy canned air from Sam's, since it's essentially the only place one can buy some at a reasonable price.

I hate shopping there, but I'll do it a couple times a year.

BTW, inteller..are you sure you don't live in Bentonville? [B)]

You're gonna get what you pay for at either place.  If you buy crap, it's gonna perform/last like crap.  Literally.

I've bought way too much stuff from Wal Mart that works to even subscribe to your notion that virtually everything you bought at Wal Mart broke within six months.  Were you dropping it on the floor every day to test durability?

Like it or not, the Wal Mart model is what a lot of retail stores strive to be.  Target could only wish they could leverage that kind of buying power that Wallyworld can.  If they had to sell the same items at Wal Mart prices they'd be bankrupt inside of 18 months.

I'm all for other stores and competition of course, but to vilify one store just because they are popular and make a profit is ludicrous.  And in these economic times, Wal Mart will make a killing because they skim their bottom line from labor, which is one thing I hate about them.  But, OTOH, they do provide jobs to many people who otherwise wouldn't be working.

And I've bought clothes from Wal Mart.  There, I said it.

But, I do read the labels and buy brands that other stores carry.  Why is it Wal Mart sells them for less?  Because they can.

I just don't expect the same kind of customer service from them.

I don't vilify them for their success, I'm merely reporting my personal experience. Some people refuse to shop at Wal-Mart on principle. I don't. I don't buy things there because the electronics (the stuff made to their specs, not stuff like gaming consoles, which are the same anywhere), clothes, and other items are usually terrible in quality.

That's been my experience.

Neither place is particularly high quality. If I want to buy something that lasts, I won't shop at either Wal-Mart or Target.

Maybe I'm a bit jaded because I remember back when WMT's goods weren't utter junk. Like clothes that weren't falling apart mere months after purchase or cut improperly. Of course, that was before Sam died and every bit of production that could be offshored was offshored.

Besides, I forgot. I have a vise grip that works great, 6 years after I bought it there. The screwdriver and socket wrench I bought at the same time long ago broke, but that's what you get anywhere that sells bottom of the barrel stuff.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by azbadpuppy

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by nathanm

Originally posted by Jonette
Edited to add: Target is hurting because people feel poor at the moment. Most people refuse to pay for quality when they feel poor.

most people refuse to pay for bull**** when they are rich too, which is all target is peddling.  You know what the only thing of higher quality is in the store?  The shopping carts.

The MDF build it yourself shelves are just as ****ty at target as they are wal-mart.  The difference is target glazes thiers with a IKEA maple finish or throws on some brushed aluminum accents.  Thats not quality, that's lipstick on a pig.

target does well when it can because it fluffs people's ego.  You are shopping at a ****ing big box store.  There is nothing "superior" or "better" to that.  If you want to feel better about yourself because you think you are spending more for "quality", go shop at Utica Square.  but puh-lease, spare me the antics that target is oh so much better than Wal-mart....just because it isn't walmart.

I don't go shopping to "fluff my ego", but if I were I would go to Wal-Mart. Watching that spectacle always makes me feel better about myself. [}:)]

Seriously though, if I need certain household items and find it necessary to go to a big box, I will choose Target over Wal-mart any day of the week. Target has far superior house brand groceries at very good prices, and they also have a decent wine selection. If all I cared about was getting everything at the cheapest price, I would probably go to Wal-mart, but I don't because IMO, Target is a better value for what you get.

hahaha....keep telling yourself that....it will help justify that shrinking wallet.

[godboko71]

To continue on the offtopic tangent, I doubt anyone that thinks Wal-mart has the cheapest princes on things compares prices.

Wal-mart may still be cheaper on some things, but for the most part with smart shopping you will save money going to other places.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by godboko71

To continue on the offtopic tangent, I doubt anyone that thinks Wal-mart has the cheapest princes on things compares prices.

Wal-mart may still be cheaper on some things, but for the most part with smart shopping you will save money going to other places.

yeah like Aldi for starters.

[Aa5drvr]

Ecco Shoes at Dillards.  
I used to get them there too but started getting mine (and Merrills) at onlineshoes.com.  Great service and I dont have to go into a store and get hounded.  

Now if Mathis Bros had a shoe store........

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by Aa5drvr

Ecco Shoes at Dillards.  
I used to get them there too but started getting mine (and Merrills) at onlineshoes.com.  Great service and I dont have to go into a store and get hounded.  

Now if Mathis Bros had a shoe store........

mathis brothers does have a show store for the employees to replace the shoes they wear out chasing you.

[grahambino]

yeah, i know how it is at Target.

Just the other day I was asking my butler's opinion, "What car should I take to Target, Reginald? The Bentley? The Rolls?"  

It was quite the dilemma!

I couldn't make up my mind for the life of me.  So, I just made Reginald go to Target for me, instead. After he left I donned my hand-made silk smoking jacket and sipped scotch all afternoon.

How DOES the other half live?

Sincerely,
J. Targetshoppington IV

[RecycleMichael]

I have a Rolls.

It is not a Rolls-Royce. It is a rolls downhill.

[TURobY]

quote:Originally posted by grahambino

yeah, i know how it is at Target.

Just the other day I was asking my butler's opinion, "What car should I take to Target, Reginald? The Bentley? The Rolls?"  

It was quite the dilemma!

I couldn't make up my mind for the life of me.  So, I just made Reginald go to Target for me, instead. After he left I donned my hand-made silk smoking jacket and sipped scotch all afternoon.

How DOES the other half live?

Sincerely,
J. Targetshoppington IV

Thanks for making me almost spit my drink onto my work computer from laughing....

[inteller]

yes that was funny.  sadly that's how some target shoppers think of themselves (when they barely have two coins to rub together)

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

yes that was funny.  sadly that's how some target shoppers think of themselves (when they barely have two coins to rub together)

Holy crap.  You're claiming that the Target patrons are uppity?

Totally agree...those fat chicks in skin tight sweats and the beer gutted dudes in plaid shirts that don't quite cover the baby sure are high on the hog, look down their nose bastards.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

quote:Originally posted by inteller

yes that was funny.  sadly that's how some target shoppers think of themselves (when they barely have two coins to rub together)

Holy crap.  You're claiming that the Target patrons are uppity?

Totally agree...those fat chicks in skin tight sweats and the beer gutted dudes in plaid shirts that don't quite cover the baby

heh, they way some people tell it on here, those people you describe are only found at wal-mart.