Dry Gulch USA Christmas Train - Gripe

[cannon_fodder]

As I understand it Lincoln Christian is very much a "this is the way it will be" institution, for better or worse.  From the method of preaching to the message.  When a decision is made it will be defended.  Which makes sense if you believe your religious leader is inspired by God.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

As I understand it Lincoln Christian is very much a "this is the way it will be" institution, for better or worse.  From the method of preaching to the message.  When a decision is made it will be defended.  Which makes sense if you believe your religious leader is inspired by God.

Not expressing opinion here, just conveying a fact. The following are all subsidiaries of "Willie George Ministries:"
Church on the Move
Lincoln Christian School
Dry Gulch USA
Christmas Train

He is an equal opportunity employer, although you have to provide your current church information, conversion history, and if you have been convicted of any misdemeanors.

Job App

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle
He is an equal opportunity employer, although you have to provide your current church information, conversion history, and if you have been convicted of any misdemeanors.

Conversion?

But, I like being a guy.

[inteller]

"CONVERSION EXPERIENCE (Explain your salvation and baptism experience.)"

Well, it was wet.

[kimmyco]

Thank you for the post.  If I choose to take my 7 year old we will be SURE to skip the "movie".  I think it's disgusting the way these Charismatics insist on using fear as their motivator for faith.

If anyone finds themselves in the Dallas Metro Area this time of year, the City of Grapevine puts on a very cool Polar Express experience.  They put you on a train at night and encourage the children to come in their pajamas just like in the book.  It's wonderful, affordable and filled with Christmas "magic".  It's completely secular and sticks entirely to the theme of the Children's Literature work.  There is a reading of the story, cocoa and all the kids get a bell at the end.  No blood or death, just a train ride!

[kimmyco]

And another thing.....someone told me a couple of years ago about how they felt tricked when they went to Dry Gulch.  They mentioned something about being herded in and getting the "Jesus put in them".  

You will probably hear more reports like yours in time.  Just keep in mind where we are and the number of people who don't find that tactic offensive.  I still think it's creepy though.

[TURobY]

I just said, "Shame on me" for not doing more research. I went with my family once, but I will not be attending again.

[AngieB]

Yeah, wouldn't want Jesus to ruin your Christmas experience.*



*this is not directed at anyone in particular, just a comment on the thread in general.

[Kashmir]

My old boss, who was devoutly Catholic wanted to go to the Christmas Train for a teambuilding exercise once.  I think enough of us found reason to be busy that evening so nothing happened.  I would have loved to have seen her reaction to that though!!![]

I've heard enough about it to know better than to go.  I don't take evangelizing well. [xx(] As for that job application, after I got done with it they would never call me back!  I used to work for a Catholic school and all they wanted was a reference letter from your pastor/priest/minister.

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by TulsaMINI

Yeah, wouldn't want Jesus to ruin your Christmas experience.*



*this is not directed at anyone in particular, just a comment on the thread in general.

There's alot about Christmas that has nothing to do with Jesus.  The log, the tree, the cards, santa, Jesus' birthday, etc.

There should be a heads up about graphic content no matter the context.

[cannon_fodder]

quote:Originally posted by TulsaMINI

Yeah, wouldn't want Jesus to ruin your Christmas experience.

I still celebrate the birthday of the sun god on December 25th, just like the Greeks did for ~700 years, the Romans adopted, and the Christians latched on to after merging it with Germanic rituals.  It annoys me that Chris has entered my "tmas" celebration.  Why can't I sit alone and worship Mithras on Sun(god)day while sharing my communal Mithra meal in the tomb from which he was reborn?   Those pesky kings that came to worship Mithras have been stolen too!

Oh how I wish he Mummers were once again free to travel from house to house spreading cheer and song to appease the sun god in this glorious holiday season of the sun god (Dies Natalis Invicti Solis).   As we warm our self by the sun-god log (Yule meaning wheel, referring to the disc of the sun).  Revel in ever greens (Christmas trees, holly, mistletoe), lighting candles to encourage the arrival of long summer days (Christmas candles/lights), and gazing upon the winter star in the dark sky (visible in the longest winter nights).
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The idea that people are "corrupting" a religious holiday with some other ideas is nothing new.  That cult probably stole half their stuff from someone else.  The Roman Empire that birthed Christianity was a huge melting pot of religious ideas and widely tolerant.  Claiming someones idea of the holiday season is somehow flawed is itself a dubious line of thinking.  

Anyone else know where the "Festivus for the Rest of us" sign is in Tulsa?

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder




I still celebrate the birthday of the sun god on December 25th, just like the Greeks did for ~700 years, the Romans adopted, and the Christians latched on to after merging it with Germanic rituals.  It annoys me that Chris has entered my "tmas" celebration.  Why can't I sit alone and worship Mithras on Sunday while sharing my communal Mithra meal in the tomb from which he was reborn?   Those pesky kings that came to worship Mithras have been stolen too!

Oh how I wish he Mummers were once again free to travel from house to house spreading cheer and song to appease the sun god in this glorious holiday season of the sun god (Dies Natalis Invicti Solis).   As we warm our self by the sun-god log (Yule meaning wheel, referring to the disc of the sun).  Revel in ever greens (Christmas trees, holly, mistletoe), lighting candles to encourage the arrival of long summer days (Christmas candles/lights), and gazing upon the winter star in the dark sky (visible in the longest winter nights).
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The idea that people are "corrupting" a religious holiday with some other ideas is nothing new.  That cult probably stole half their stuff from someone else.  The Roman Empire that birthed Christianity was a huge melting pot of religious ideas and widely tolerant.  Claiming someones idea of the holiday season is somehow flawed is itself a dubious line of thinking.  

Anyone else know where the "Festivus for the Rest of us" sign is in Tulsa?

Show off

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by TulsaMINI

Yeah, wouldn't want Jesus to ruin your Christmas experience.*



*this is not directed at anyone in particular, just a comment on the thread in general.

something tells me when the 3 wise men arrived at the manger they weren't assaulted with a film about drinking and slitting wrists.

[sledbet]

We also went and enjoyed it but I agree...the language in the film was too graphic for children's ears. No child should be hearing a story about a mother slitting her wrists and swallowing a bottle of sleeping pills! I hope this church will get some common sense and change the film. The experience was enjoyable otherwise.

[zstyles]

quote:Originally posted by TulsaMINI

Yeah, wouldn't want Jesus to ruin your Christmas experience.*



*this is not directed at anyone in particular, just a comment on the thread in general.

not the point...I don't mind that...its the blood and guts...try to stay on topic...