41st & Harvard - Christmas Tree Lot

[BierGarten]

Has anyone heard recent plans for the southeast corner of 41st & Harvard?  A buddy of mine mentioned that a strip mall is planned and is in the works.

I seem to recall that that neighborhood fought hard to keep a neighborhood grocery from coming to that corner, so it is hard for me to believe that a strip mall wouldn't be hotly contested.

[OurTulsa]

Harvard Square it ain't.  

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by OurTulsa

Harvard Square it ain't.  

That looks like an easy guess.  From the site plan. . . Walgreens, Taco's or Burgers, ALDI, liquor store, dry cleaner.

What'd I win?

[cannon_fodder]

Not my preferred use of the land, but better than it's current non-use.

[Conan71]

I really don't give a **** what they put on the SE corner of the intersection as long as they fix that rough-donkey stretch of road first.

[Townsend]

dammit...how about parking behind the buildings?

[CoffeeBean]

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

dammit...how about parking behind the buildings?

Agreed.  Hide the sea of concrete in the back.  Give us a little retail in the front.

[joiei]

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

dammit...how about parking behind the buildings?

But if you do that then the SUV housewives will not think that they can park at the front door because they are more important than anything else.

[Markk]

quote:Originally posted by OurTulsa

Harvard Square it ain't.  

Good--morning parking lots up against sidewalks and streets.

Why not reconfigure and put the parking complete inside the collection of buildings?

[Red Arrow]

quote:Originally posted by inteller


Aldi'swould make sense...it would fit right in with the socialist atmosphere of midtown.

At least people return the carts at ALDI's.

[FOTD]

The devil told you before, DRUGS!

[OurTulsa]

This, to me, is another opportunity lost.  They have a chance to create something special on that corner and all they can come up with is another formula commercial shopping center with a little lipstick on.  Oh well, not like I expected anything more than this.  Our current comp. plan says this is the optimal use...so be it.

[dsjeffries]

quote:Originally posted by OurTulsa

This, to me, is another opportunity lost.  They have a chance to create something special on that corner and all they can come up with is another formula commercial shopping center with a little lipstick on.  Oh well, not like I expected anything more than this.  Our current comp. plan says this is the optimal use...so be it.

What lipstick?

This is pure crap... no lipstick added.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

dammit...how about parking behind the buildings?

Would be nice, but then they wouldn't be able to lease them.  People in Tulsa will drive an extra mile to be able to park 10 feet closer to the front door.  Wish we could change that, but it is what it is, and the market dictates that parking will be in front.

[OurTulsa]

quote:Originally posted by dsjeffries

quote:Originally posted by OurTulsa

This, to me, is another opportunity lost.  They have a chance to create something special on that corner and all they can come up with is another formula commercial shopping center with a little lipstick on.  Oh well, not like I expected anything more than this.  Our current comp. plan says this is the optimal use...so be it.

What lipstick?

This is pure crap... no lipstick added.

The buildings are supposed to be gussied up (wanna-be italianate).  If they really are done well and attractively it'll be too bad that they will have little impact on their surrounding from behind those significant parking areas off of Harvard.  The two northern buildings may have some (Utica Sq. like) visibility from 41st but still won't have provide much of an impression from anywhere but within the site.

While we're at it...let's talk about that parking...why so much?  All dictated by the Zoning Ordinance?  Surely there's some opportunity to share across uses and even so is all that parking really necessary?  Who the H came up with our parking requirements?

Let's talk about that parkin