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#71
Development & New Businesses / Re: PAC Master Plan / Expansio...
Last post by swake - February 28, 2025, 08:03:54 AMWith free curbside pickup and nearly free delivery do physical grocery stores even look like they are going to matter in the future? Kroger has recently entered the OKC market and they don't even have physical stores.
#72
Development & New Businesses / Re: PAC Master Plan / Expansio...
Last post by SXSW - February 27, 2025, 01:03:56 PMThis is a better plan than what they originally proposed. I hope they can build the larger portion, the theatre to the east with parking underneath, first so they don't have to shut down the PAC for three years.
Now the question is where does the downtown grocery store go if this site is out of play?
Now the question is where does the downtown grocery store go if this site is out of play?
#73
Development & New Businesses / PAC Master Plan / Expansion
Last post by Dspike - February 27, 2025, 11:32:45 AMThe PAC's recently announced master plan seems sufficiently different and new to warrant its own thread. The PAC parking lot thread focused on the mixed use / grocery store project that died in 2023.
Here is the Tulsa World article with a few renderings of the PAC's hopes and dreams, including:
* Major upgrades to existing facility
* New pre and post function amenities
* 60,000 sq ft addition to the west, taking up half of the park space.
* PAC parking lot to the east would house a 1,400 seat structure; underground parking garage
* Skybridge between existing building and new structure on PAC parking lot
To do everything would close the PAC for 3 years during construction.
Looks like all they need is money!
https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/government-politics/article_197bf71e-f47e-11ef-b0c4-8b23e76e2a11.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
Here is the Tulsa World article with a few renderings of the PAC's hopes and dreams, including:
* Major upgrades to existing facility
* New pre and post function amenities
* 60,000 sq ft addition to the west, taking up half of the park space.
* PAC parking lot to the east would house a 1,400 seat structure; underground parking garage
* Skybridge between existing building and new structure on PAC parking lot
To do everything would close the PAC for 3 years during construction.
Looks like all they need is money!
https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/government-politics/article_197bf71e-f47e-11ef-b0c4-8b23e76e2a11.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
#74
PlaniTulsa & Urban Planning / Re: New Tulsa Interstate (US-4...
Last post by dbacksfan 2.0 - February 26, 2025, 12:39:44 PMQuote from: patric on February 25, 2025, 01:39:08 PMAs of this week, no construction between Tulsa And Siloam Springs.
It took what 12 or 13 years to complete 169 from 21st to the BA Expressway and even longer to complete HWY 11 from Sheridan to US 75? I'd say they're right on schedule.
#75
PlaniTulsa & Urban Planning / Re: New Tulsa Interstate (US-4...
Last post by patric - February 25, 2025, 01:39:08 PMAs of this week, no construction between Tulsa And Siloam Springs.
#76
Development & New Businesses / Re: Western Supply warehouses...
Last post by Urban Enthusiast - February 24, 2025, 05:18:04 PMIt's looking good! It's quite substantial.
#77
Other Local Reviews / Re: Solar Installers
Last post by patric - February 21, 2025, 11:46:30 AMQuoteBipartisan Support for Solar Tax Credits: Solar tax credits have enjoyed bipartisan support for years. For instance, during his last term, President Trump signed legislation in 2020 that extended the solar tax credits rather than allowing them to expire. This demonstrates a long-standing recognition of solar energy's benefits to our economy and national security.
You have to remember Trump is transactional; his flip-flops are only one brown paper bag of money away.
He supported Ukraine right up until he tweeted Zelenskyy was "A Dictator without Elections!!"
Electricity isnt getting any cheaper no matter how much drilling we do, and electric reliability is at the mercy of mother nature. We are way behind the curve on renewable energy compared to most of the world.
#78
Development & New Businesses / Re: Western Supply warehouses...
Last post by SXSW - February 21, 2025, 11:15:33 AMProgress at Western Supply, should be complete by next spring
#79
Local & State Politics / Re: 10 Commandments to go on S...
Last post by patric - February 20, 2025, 01:53:07 PMA bill that proposed to erect monuments to the Ten Commandments at the Oklahoma Capitol failed to advance through the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday. Senate Bill 380 proposed to display monuments to the Ten Commandments both inside and outside the Capitol. Sen. David Bullard, R-Durant, who authored the measure, said donated funds would have been used to design the monuments and set them in place.
In 2015, the Oklahoma Supreme Court ruled against a Ten Commandments monument that previously had been displayed at the Capitol, citing the Blaine Amendment in the Oklahoma Constitution, which prohibits the use of public funds or property to promote a religion. The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, too, includes a clause prohibiting the government from establishing a religion or favoring one religion over another.
In 2016, Oklahomans voted to reject State Question 790, which would have repealed the Blaine Amendment and allowed for restoration of the monument on the Capitol grounds.
Committee Chairman Sen. Brent Howard, R-Altus, said recent history has shown, too, that Oklahomans would prefer for the state to refrain from any endorsement of a particular religion. He noted that Oklahomans opted not to repeal the Blaine Amendment by a 57% to 43% vote.
"We cannot favor one religion over another. ... I think that this still is furtherance of an unconstitutional matter that has been ruled on, and I worry about what further doors this will open if we advance this," Howard said.
https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/new-ten-commandments-monument-bill-fails-to-advance/article_c1c7b284-ef18-11ef-9fe8-6ba668b3ffd4.html
In 2015, the Oklahoma Supreme Court ruled against a Ten Commandments monument that previously had been displayed at the Capitol, citing the Blaine Amendment in the Oklahoma Constitution, which prohibits the use of public funds or property to promote a religion. The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, too, includes a clause prohibiting the government from establishing a religion or favoring one religion over another.
In 2016, Oklahomans voted to reject State Question 790, which would have repealed the Blaine Amendment and allowed for restoration of the monument on the Capitol grounds.
Committee Chairman Sen. Brent Howard, R-Altus, said recent history has shown, too, that Oklahomans would prefer for the state to refrain from any endorsement of a particular religion. He noted that Oklahomans opted not to repeal the Blaine Amendment by a 57% to 43% vote.
"We cannot favor one religion over another. ... I think that this still is furtherance of an unconstitutional matter that has been ruled on, and I worry about what further doors this will open if we advance this," Howard said.
https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/new-ten-commandments-monument-bill-fails-to-advance/article_c1c7b284-ef18-11ef-9fe8-6ba668b3ffd4.html
#80
Other Tulsa Discussion / Re: Another Police Helicopter
Last post by dbacksfan 2.0 - February 19, 2025, 07:51:00 PMQuote from: whoatown on February 19, 2025, 02:09:18 PMhttps://citizenwatchreport.com/the-ntsbs-black-box-data-just-confirmed-what-we-all-feared-this-crash-wasnt-just-bad-luck/
Blackbox recovered from blackhawk.
Anything from altimeter malfunction to night goggles limiting vision.
Commercial jet tries unsuccessfully to make effective evasive manuever.