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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2007, 02:43:17 pm »

Shoot, I'd go there. Been to Riverwalks and it rocks. We can't get our shoot together, and Jenks does it - then we get mad and curse Jenks. The firm that designed this have their shoot together - study some of the stuff Baltimore City has done. That should be a blueprint for Tulsa to follow.

We get a big box walmart smack dab in the middle of downtown - they get our stadium, and all the money.

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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2007, 02:47:11 pm »

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It amazes me how many people believe this type of development has the critical mass neccesary to become reality.


The media never questions the rationale behind this kind of dreaming.

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Its one of the wealthiest, fastest growing areas in the state. They can pull from most of south Tulsa, Jenks, Bixby, and Glenpool. Its right on the river, near other attractions. And they can get a huge tract of property.

Where else in the whole region could you find a better spot or more likely location to do a development like this? 95% of all my work comes from within a 5 or 6 miles of that area. Lots of young wealthy people and gobs more to come. If this development happens it will only spur more people to move to the area.

Plus its not as though its a huuuge development. May be for our state. But like my grandpappy always says, "A billion aint what it used to be".
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2007, 03:09:27 pm »

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The baseball field is south of 106th so we'll say 108th or 109th. The power plant is from 111th to 121st. So the north end of plant property is less than half a mile from the stadium property. Not to mention the plant in Jenks is far larger than the old plant in Tulsa.



Looking at Google Earth, the main part of the power plant is at 115th stretching onto about 122nd. There's nothing north of there. And there are half million dollar homes within a couple of blocks of the power plant too. It's pretty well shielded.

Tulsa Landing would have an Oil Refinery within 500 feet, directly across I-244 and the Branson Landing people want in there.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2007, 03:15:07 pm »

Here's the real problem.

Jenks has officially pissed off Tulsa.

Not good. Not good at all if they want stuff from us.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2007, 03:17:12 pm »

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Here's the real problem.

Jenks has officially pissed off Tulsa.

Not good. Not good at all if they want stuff from us.



Then make a better offer to the Drillers, I'm all for them being downtown.
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2007, 03:25:38 pm »

Downtown would have a great atmosphere, awesome view of the skyline, but it is such a hard sell for the burbanites.  The proximity of the proposed stadium to the Creek may help attendance.
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2007, 04:52:55 pm »

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Here's the real problem.

Jenks has officially pissed off Tulsa.

Not good. Not good at all if they want stuff from us.



Why?  By offering $1 billion in private funding for a mixed-use project that will include a new ballpark for the Drillers?... compared to what?

A taxpayer funded stadium downtown?  If it involves higher sales taxes, I'd assume many Tulsa taxpayers would be grateful it was private money that built the stadium... even if it were in Jenks.

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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2007, 05:29:20 pm »

Filched this pic from channel 6. Looks like a few 5 story buildings and possibly one thats 8 or 10 stories. Looks like a decent development for Jenks.  

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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2007, 05:40:40 pm »

Wow, riverfront parking. Still leaving out the powerplant with like 200ft candy-cane stacks looming over the stadium.
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2007, 05:44:59 pm »

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quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

The baseball field is south of 106th so we'll say 108th or 109th. The power plant is from 111th to 121st. So the north end of plant property is less than half a mile from the stadium property. Not to mention the plant in Jenks is far larger than the old plant in Tulsa.



Looking at Google Earth, the main part of the power plant is at 115th stretching onto about 122nd. There's nothing north of there. And there are half million dollar homes within a couple of blocks of the power plant too. It's pretty well shielded.

Tulsa Landing would have an Oil Refinery within 500 feet, directly across I-244 and the Branson Landing people want in there.



The neighborhood has lots of trees and even they aren't that pleased with the plant and substation being there. To the north is cooling towers and very few trees.
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« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2007, 06:08:37 pm »

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Wow, riverfront parking. Still leaving out the powerplant with like 200ft candy-cane stacks looming over the stadium.



Perhaps thats so the stadium can be closer to the water. [Tongue]

I think the power plant will be kewl to look at. Will help add some authenticity and grit to the urban feel they are going for. [8D]
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« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2007, 06:25:03 pm »

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Here's the real problem.

Jenks has officially pissed off Tulsa.

Not good. Not good at all if they want stuff from us.



ooooOOOH....I'm sure they are soooo scared!  they don't give a flying **** if tulsa is pissed off.  they can simply take what they want until Tulsa city council gets some BALLS and Tulsa gets its OWN chamber of commerce, not this regionalist Metro Chamber bull****.
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« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2007, 06:33:48 pm »

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Filched this pic from channel 6. Looks like a few 5 story buildings and possibly one thats 8 or 10 stories. Looks like a decent development for Jenks.  





Is that styrofoam is see?  [}:)]
I assume the view from the ballpark will be of the river and the CityPlex Towers and NOT the refinery...

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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2007, 07:06:27 pm »

Assuming passage of the river tax, what stops Jenks from luring the Drillers away?  

Seems this project is moving forward and the river tax contains nothing to lure the Drillers downtown.

If you want baseball downtown, you're competing with river development, whether in Jenks or at 21st on the west bank.  

I'd like more details from Norton . . .
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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2007, 08:40:19 pm »

Hey, Jenks. Looks like a great plan. You're a daisy if you do.
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