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« Reply #210 on: May 18, 2017, 12:13:46 pm »

Today is verdict day, along with a Tsunami of information that was being withheld till now.

Fox23 reported ADA Gray not only saying video was tampered with, but Shelby and her union legal team got those videos two days prior to her even making her official report.

And it gets grittier.


Cop Who Killed Terence Crutcher Accused Of Making Her Daughter Sleep In Dog Urine: Report
The family of the slain 40-year-old publicly released the information, which they believe speaks to the character of Officer Betty Shelby.

After the defense rested in the manslaughter trial of Tulsa Police Officer Betty Shelby, who is on trial for the September 2016 death of Terence Crutcher, his family held an impromptu press conference on the courthouse steps on Tuesday, expressing their displeasure at how the trial went.

According to KJRH, Crutcher’s family and supporters felt that the defense and police union disparaged Crutcher’s name, when it is he who is the aggrieved (that is, dead) party.

“As opposed to Betty Shelby being on trial, it appears that Terence Crutcher is on trial,” said Pastor of Morning Star Baptist Church Dr. Rodney Goss.

To rectify that, the family presented court documents from 2005 that say Shelby’s ex-husband claimed she physically abused their children, prompting him to seek custody.

Specifically, the report claims that Shelby choked and kicked her 10-year-old daughter and forced her to sleep in dog urine.

Local reporter Jonathan McCall presented some of the documents on Twitter.

    #BREAKING Officer charged with killing #TerenceCrutcher accused of choking daughter forcing her to sleep in dog urine according to records pic.twitter.com/asTxmkKEFk

    — Jonathan McCall (@JonathanMcCall) May 16, 2017

“Her daughter said her mother had choked her and kicked her,” said Pastor of My Church Walk of Faith Marcus Howard. “We’re trying to portray her as being an angel, and an angel she is not.”

The domestic case against Shelby was eventually dismissed. Unsurprisingly, her peers in the local police union defended her.

“I don’t see how that would go to her mindset during a shooting years later,” said Tulsa Fraternal Order of Police Chairman Jerad Lindsey. “I’m sure Mr. Crutcher has many more things in his past there were not coming up because they’re not pertinent to what’s going on in this trial.”

However, the family felt that the FOP also released disparaging information on Crutcher over the weekend.

Some of the videos were about the affects of PCP and the difference between the “action and reaction” of officers.
Crutcher was known to have battled substance abuse and had PCP in his system when he was killed.

“Terence is not on trial. It is his life that we are here to protect and to make sure that justice is served,” Pastor Howard said.

The jury in the trial was instructed to come back to court Wednesday morning for closing arguments and to decide a verdict.
SOURCE: KJRH – Tulsa   https://newsone.com/3713232/betty-shelby-made-her-daughter-sleep-in-dog-urine/


No offense, but that is a complete load of horsesh!t.
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« Reply #211 on: May 18, 2017, 12:48:27 pm »

Anyone check on Vashta?
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« Reply #212 on: May 18, 2017, 10:15:55 pm »

Anyone check on Vashta?



Awwww.

 


Gray told jurors that enhanced video clips of the shooting appear to show that Crutcher was shot five seconds before he appeared to reach inside the SUV
 

Tulsa County District Attorney Steve Kunzweiler said that other officers knew the shooting was wrong immediately afterwards, with a fellow cop telling Shelby "not to say a word."


The jury in Betty Shelby's manslaughter trial began deliberations about noon Wednesday after hearing the defense call the district attorney a "hypocrite" for prosecuting her and the state's reply that an outside investigation was necessary because Shelby's police interview was a "setup job" to shield her from a criminal case.

Walker told Assistant District Attorney Kevin Gray that he showed Shelby video of the shooting from a dash camera and police helicopter before going with her and Wood into an interview room for her official statement. When asked why he did so, Walker said it was “to get the most accurate statement we can” about what took place.

Gray pointed out that showing Shelby the footage before taking her statement could have affected her recollection of the shooting, to which Walker repeated that he simply wanted to get the most accurate account of events from Shelby. But under further questioning, Walker said he “can’t recall ever doing that” for a private citizen who was shown shooting someone on video.


(Gray) told the jury the timestamp on the image is five seconds after the shot was fired, saying the photo instead matched the testimony of Shelby's backing officer, Tyler Turnbough, who told the jury he deployed an electric current from his Taser twice because the first five-second round was not effective at getting Crutcher to comply.
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« Reply #213 on: May 19, 2017, 06:24:13 am »

Vashata on the Right.....

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« Reply #214 on: May 19, 2017, 11:17:11 am »

What Bread? Guido? Easier to make fun of the poster than address the conflicting evidence? I am very curious as to whether this effects future cases. Both sides should be able to review police video before giving their statements. The five second discrepancy is pretty alarming as well. He was twice tasered, (maybe one missed) and physically reacted. It seemed unclear when she shot him. I agree with the jury that there is no way should she ever be returned to a street officer status.
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« Reply #215 on: May 19, 2017, 01:38:36 pm »


The jury foreman published a letter essentially saying Shelby wasnt innocent, but that the DA was ineffective prosecuting her.
The civil trial is bound to be a bloodbath, but the taxpayers always pay up.
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« Reply #216 on: May 20, 2017, 01:17:27 am »

What Bread? Guido? Easier to make fun of the poster than address the conflicting evidence? I am very curious as to whether this effects future cases. Both sides should be able to review police video before giving their statements. The five second discrepancy is pretty alarming as well. He was twice tasered, (maybe one missed) and physically reacted. It seemed unclear when she shot him. I agree with the jury that there is no way should she ever be returned to a street officer status.

If you mean Vashta the guy is an anti-cop crank. No interest in any opinions he has, and certainly do not expect anything objective. I wrote on the last page that I wanted a just verdict. I do not know all the facts, and do not presume to know. I also have some faith in the justice system.
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« Reply #217 on: May 20, 2017, 01:20:14 am »


The civil trial is bound to be a bloodbath, but the taxpayers always pay up.

Tulsa taxpayers will pay up. And I wouldn't be sure what will happen in the civil action. I suspect every negative detail about Crutcher (whatever that is) will be discovered and likely admissible.
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« Reply #218 on: May 20, 2017, 06:36:24 pm »

"In fear for your life?"  Maybe you shouldn't be a cop.

One of the 12 jurors who acquitted Tulsa Police Officer Betty Shelby of manslaughter on Wednesday told The Frontier the jury penned a letter to Chief Chuck Jordan saying that
Shelby should never again be a patrol officer .
He said he felt that Shelby “was a fearful person,” and that the jury agreed someone with that mindset should not be on patrol.

 -- And while its not likely Sgt. Walker will ever see the inside of a jail cell for obstructing justice, his retirement is imminent.  Who could trust him now after the video-assisted rehearsals with Shelby and his public spats with Kuntzweiler?


Juror: We Voted ‘Not Guilty’ For Tulsa Cop After Getting Hungry, Tired
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« Reply #219 on: May 21, 2017, 06:07:39 pm »


A city best known in Black America for the 1921 race riots in which 35 blocks of the wealthiest black community, Greenwood, were destroyed and hundreds of African-Americans were injured or killed, wants to reset its moral compass.

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« Reply #220 on: June 29, 2017, 08:23:16 pm »


So much for the Rule of Law.  Shows what people have been saying about the different standards...  can't convict a cop no matter how guilty he is proven to be.  Geez, what an "Okie" !!


The results of an internal investigation into a white Oklahoma police officer recently acquitted in the fatal shooting an unarmed black man may not be known now that the officer has resigned.
http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/result-internal-investigation-may-go-unknown

She wants to patrol again, but for another department.



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« Reply #221 on: July 24, 2017, 11:08:55 pm »

In an open letter posted to the Rogers County Sheriff’s Office’s Facebook page on Monday, (Rogers County Sheriff Scott) Walton accuses Tulsa County District Attorney Steve Kunzweiler and Tulsa Police Chief Chuck Jordan of “dealing an incredible blow to the entire American law enforcement community.”

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/rogers-county-sheriff-scott-walton-calls-out-tulsa-county-da/article_57b3ae2c-b34b-54b0-9fbf-b622c46f3f77.html

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« Reply #222 on: July 25, 2017, 07:44:50 am »

In an open letter posted to the Rogers County Sheriff’s Office’s Facebook page on Monday, (Rogers County Sheriff Scott) Walton accuses Tulsa County District Attorney Steve Kunzweiler and Tulsa Police Chief Chuck Jordan of “dealing an incredible blow to the entire American law enforcement community.”

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/rogers-county-sheriff-scott-walton-calls-out-tulsa-county-da/article_57b3ae2c-b34b-54b0-9fbf-b622c46f3f77.html



Sorry Shrek, police don't have the right to kill because they're spooked.

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« Reply #223 on: July 25, 2017, 08:01:13 am »

Sorry Shrek, police don't have the right to kill because they're spooked.



Shrek....LOL.  Now that's funny.  He does look like the human incarnation of him.
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« Reply #224 on: July 25, 2017, 09:10:24 am »

Sorry Shrek, police don't have the right to kill because they're spooked.

This a month after calling his former department cowards.

Sometimes you just have to look at the problem from the other side of the world.
The "American Nightmare" as seen from Australia:

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/opinion/what-justine-damonds-death-tells-us-about-american-police-and-race-20170724-gxhfui.html
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