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custosnox
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« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2009, 12:33:08 pm »

I am the offensive coordinator and find you both offensive.
I find that offensive
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« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2009, 11:51:52 am »

ANOTHER STEWART CLASSIC!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-14-2009/rape-nuts


It, simply put, is beyond belief in a civilized society that 30 Senators -- all Republicans -- voted in favor of rape, gang rape, in the precipitating case that caused Franken to try and end governmental sanctioning of this outrage.

Don't ever forget that 30 GOP Senators voted for rape and even gave floor speeches "defending" their vote.

It's beyond disgraceful. It's 30 U.S. Senators who are accessories to a brutal crime. And main stream media (MSM)
are culpable as well....
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« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2009, 03:32:15 pm »

It, simply put, is beyond belief that you could read this whole thread and still have that opinion.  I think.
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« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2009, 11:40:46 am »

It, simply put, is beyond belief that you could read this whole thread and still have that opinion.  I think.

You think he read the thread?
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« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2009, 02:06:56 pm »

Ack, silly me...
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« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2009, 02:19:01 pm »

Ack, silly me...

yes
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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2009, 01:13:58 am »

I call BS. You haven't even looked up the amendment and have no idea what it says.  Do some research before you post blathering nonsense:

Summary available here:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00308

The full amendment reads:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?r111:./temp/~r111ARNtP4  (with other proposed amendments)

The amendment would forbid U.S. Contractors from requiring arbitration of many things other than rape.   Voting against the amendment doesn't mean they approve of gang raping people and locking people up in shipping containers.  To call a vote against this amendment as "pro-rape" is patently absurd and the lowest form of politics.

Furthermore, this measure has NOTHING to do with criminal prosecution of rape.  It address civil actions against the company in situations which currently allow persons an avenue for compensation through arbitration (faster, cheaper).  That isn't necessarily a bad thing, though I'm sure you could find an anecdotal case that it turned out badly (as I could find one that turned out badly in the courts).  However, if I wanted to avoid arbitration and a man or woman walked in to my office with allegations of rape and a company raised an arbitration provision as a defense, I'd file with the Courts anyway and argue that justice demands such a provision be stricken (50/50 proposition.  If the arbitration is absurd I'd refile).   

If Mr. Smiley was resolute in his effort to ensure that the victim alleging rape have access to civil courts he could have drafted a much more succinct amendment.  Instead he wanted to essentially ban mandatory arbitration in all employment disputes related to any sexual allegation (or negligent hiring, IIED, etc.).  A proposition that predictably drew a vote essentially along party lines.

He did it in an effort to force a broader agenda knowing it would force Republicans to vote no (arbitration is seen as pro business, and/or as a streamline on the process:  particularly in "allegation" torts [rape or consensual, did he say the harassing things or not?  Generally he said she said], things that took place over seas, and where jurisdiction is in dispute) .  Thus allowing the Huffington Post and the Feminist Peace Network (your unbiased source) to waive their arms around and go wharrgarbl.  Put an amendment on there specifying that any allegation of rape that results in a criminal prosecution can not be arbitrated without consent of Plaintiff's counsel and see how the vote goes, I'm guessing it does OK.

Additionally, this is Frankens first amendment.  If it was in favor of daisies and pretty skies the Republicans went have mostly voted against it.  Does that mean that hate daisies and pretty skies or want to pick on the Jr. Democrat Senator?  (the Republicans playing stupid political games)

The classification as "pro rape" is insulting to the intelligence of anyone who actually read the bill and understands the provisions.

/I'm not really concerned about the merit of the amendment, just the classification as "pro rape" and the other crap thrown out by cited unbiased sources.

Looks like Franken was trying to give contract workers working on govt projects closer to the same protections under the law that they would get here in the states.  I still don't see where the "added" items could not be considered harassment or assault.
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« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2009, 02:32:12 pm »


OK is not OK:

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/10/oklahoma-abortion-law-like-undressing.html


" Anonymous said...
The unborn are not babies and they are not children, they are fetuses or they are zygotes. Since they are unborn, they do not have constitutional rights. They never have and they never will. The mother's rights always trumps those of the unborn.

This law is clearly an invasion of privacy and clearly unconstitutional, which means no doctor has to follow the new law.

As far as the ridiculous claim that the law is written by men, as if it were some kind of conspiricy against women, then women have only themselves to blame.

RUN FOR OFFICE LADIES! You control more than 50% of the vote, so it's your fault there are so many men in charge of the federal, state and local governments!

Kevin Schmidt "


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« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2009, 02:54:41 pm »

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz2W6mYUyyE[/youtube]

Have any of these 30 Senators explained their vote?

WOW!
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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2009, 11:28:33 pm »

Republicans Are Shocked The Public Is Mad At Them For Voting Against Franken’s Anti-Rape Amendment

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/13/republicans-franken-shocked/

GOP Senators are out of touch with the American People and reality.
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« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2009, 04:09:49 am »

Franken's Anti-Rape Amendment May Be Stripped By Senior Dem, Sources Say

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/22/frankens-anti-rape-amendm_n_329896.html

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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2009, 02:00:53 pm »

Franken's Anti-Rape Amendment May Be Stripped By Senior Dem, Sources Say

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/22/frankens-anti-rape-amendm_n_329896.html

Dated material...


However, to give credit where a "little credit" is due, 9 other NeoConfederates voted for the Franken Amendment http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00308.

Wanna hear a joke?

Compassionate conservative.
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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2009, 03:56:30 pm »

The question on abortion stretches beyond  the capacity of the human mind.  The amendment fabricates the illusion of where and when the fetus becomes a life form and some power, that we cannot define tells the fetus that “This body is yours”.  We can regress back to the builders of the great pyramids or life froms from an alien gift or created by an unnamed God of the Jew, but we find throughout history many of those born out of wedlock have possessed powers that give reason for much speculation.

I have sat as an arbitrator only to evaluate later how my own preconceived prejudices determined the outcome.  As an innocent by stander I paid for an abortion and even that still dwells on my mind as I was a part of depriving  what could have been a living person their place in life.

The amendment is only opening the door of the courts again for an interpretation in an system that is overwrought with constant challenges reduced to even a single word. Regardless it requires deep thought of both pro and con. 
   
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« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2009, 04:27:45 pm »

Dated material...


However, to give credit where a "little credit" is due, 9 other NeoConfederates voted for the Franken Amendment http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00308.

Wanna hear a joke?

Compassionate conservative.

You are quite right FOTD...forgive me
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