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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2008, 08:21:01 am »

Actually I believe Tulsa has several venues that host concerts.  This new phenomenon of concerts at the newer venues seems to be an interesting chain of events.    

Brady Theatre being one of if not the best for acoustics and viewing, no neck crick the next morning from turning ones head sitting in an arena seat.

Few others include:
Pavilion Expo Square
Quik Trip Center Expo Square
Grand Stands Expo Square (Willie Nelson 4th of July Birthday Bash)
New building Expo Square
Performing Arts Center
Mabee Center
Maxwell Convention Center aka Civic Center
BOK Center
Rose Bowl
Cains Ballroom
Tulsa Event Center (Oertle's Building on Memorial)  One of Tulsa's largest concerts was held in the Oertle's parking lot in the late 60s according to Tulsa TV Memories.

I left off a few to give you other posters something to post. Smiley

Of course Tulsa also has several arena type buildings that seem to be built for Hockey Games, with a floor space of 85 feet by 200 feet.  Same as most rodeo arena dimensions.  We have these arenas ranging in seating capicity from 2,000 up to 19,000.  We have a couple that have a bit larger floor space, Ford Livestock building at Expo with dirt foor.  Lazy E Arena in Guthrie, OK has a floor that is 250 wide and 450 long.  It rocks for Arenacross, Monster Trucks and Dirt Track racing.  

Too bad Tulsa planners did not build us a building with a decent size floor, considering we already have a half dozen with Hockey Rink size floors.  

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« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2008, 08:58:42 am »

We have one of the largest clearspan buildings in the world and the new ballroom being built on the convention center. Those are both big floors.
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« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2008, 09:11:24 am »

True, decent floor space at the IPE Building, but no modern seating.  

Seems we have lots of seats and a tiny floor or lots of floor and tiny funkey old school seating.  Cannot seem to combine both into one venue.

Another item missing in the archeticture at the IPE and the new Ballroom is a wall surrounding the floor space.  Most arenas have a wall with curved corners that allow for action events to be held in them.  Multi Purpose Event Centers as they build in our neighboring state to the south, Texas and in Missouri and Louisiana. Not sure why they seem to get it right, and we miss it totally.   It is a no brainer.  Raises the seating above the arena floor to allow for safety when the participants are race vehicles or massive Elephants etc.  

Having a single level floor and attempting to install temporary walls, fencing and bleachers seems to be a large expense that is not an investment, just a liability.  

Add up the cost of hauling in and out dirt, fencing, DOT barriers, and old school splintered bleachers for the ABA Bicycle Races, Tulsa Shootout, Chili Bowl and the Starbird Monster Truck races at the IPE over the past 23 plus years.  That wasted money could of gone to help pay for another building that size with proper architecture, clay foor and decent seating arangements.

Granted the flat floor lends itself to a greater number of events, but the cost to provide for proper logistics is extremely high.
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« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2008, 10:20:38 am »

Too few dollars chasing too many venues....and Remy did get government assistance from a TIFF which if the deal goes south not only Spirit bank but kids will suffer. Big risk these TIFFs.
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« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2008, 12:12:47 pm »

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Exiting from the parking garage was a cluster.  (what event isn't?)  But, otherwise, looked like a nice facility.


Exiting any kind of suburban events facility is a giant clusterf***. Thousands of people all going toward one exit.

It's the funnel traffic flow of suburban housing developments multiplied by 1,000.

Downtown venues have that going for them: spread out parking and lots of streets going lots of different directions.



after the Zig Zigler disaster you have the gall to post that bull****?  Just ****.


There was an order of magnitude difference in attendance, you twit. You really think thirty thousand people at 106th and Memorial wouldn't **** traffic for a few hours?

And you'd really have hated to be in Fayetteville this past weekend. I know I did. Sometimes, events happen and they make parking difficult. I know plenty of people with paid parking downtown there who are out of luck on event days. Of course, the City of Fayetteville is kind enough to be up front and say your hang tag isn't good for special events.
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« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2008, 08:12:03 pm »

did anyone say 30000 people came to 106th and memorial?  no, but someone said that the 3500 or so at regal plaza made traffic a mess, which is just total bull****.

and twit?  that would be the person who tried to take a car anywhere near Dickson during BB&BBQ.......twit.[}:)]
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« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2008, 07:53:02 am »

If you think it was a problem getting in and out of the area, it wasnt so great for those who live there.
Sure they built a 15-foot fence, but their all-night lighting is mounted high above that and trespassing into neighbors yards.


'Another neighborhood concern is light pollution, said resident Kyle Conaway, 31, whose property is next to the parking garage adjacent to the center. The garage was also a source of late-night noise, he said.

"Our children couldn't sleep," Conaway said. "We're totally for economic development and we're pro-business in Bixby, but I think there was a lot of things the city could have done to protect the neighborhood."

(police chief) Shirley said the lights would be a City Council issue and not a police issue, but that police would continue to work with the center on security, traffic and noise control in the area.

"It's a commercial area, and anytime you have a commercial area back up to a residential area, you try to work out what's best for both properties," he said.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20081002_11_A1_Kloaar19450

A commercial developer that big had no idea that  improperly-designed commercial lighting would trespass into residential neighborhoods?

In Tulsa, it's covered under zoning (Ordinance 1303c) but Bixby gets to re-invent the wheel.
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« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2008, 07:59:39 am »

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[EDIT]....you just don't get it.



ADMINISTRATORS!! Is this really necessary? We're talking parking lots here folks. Get a grip.



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« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2008, 11:57:04 am »

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 that would be the person who tried to take a car anywhere near Dickson during BB&BBQ.......twit.[}:)]


I'm not the one that decided that it was a good weekend to move offices. [:O]

Besides, if you know the area well, you can avoid the worst of the traffic. There are lots of little side streets. Sort of like downtown Tulsa. Parking was a much bigger issue.
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« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2008, 01:14:40 pm »

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Tulsa Event Center (Oertle's Building on Memorial)  One of Tulsa's largest concerts was held in the Oertle's parking lot in the late 60s according to Tulsa TV Memories.


That building is now the Clear Channel Center, and the Event Center remained heated, lit and empty with automatic generators during the ice storm when there was no power for miles...
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« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2008, 07:24:50 pm »

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Tulsa Event Center (Oertle's Building on Memorial)  One of Tulsa's largest concerts was held in the Oertle's parking lot in the late 60s according to Tulsa TV Memories.
 



I wonder what artist or artists played at that concert? Was it a rock show?
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« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2009, 11:57:27 am »

Another devilish prediction comes true....


Bankable venue
SpiritBank takes over ownership of event center, plaza in Bixby


http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=32&articleid=20091202_32_E1_People589936


Build it and they will come foreclose?

Deed in lieu...

Jenks may be next.....

Then Spirit Bank, maybe.
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« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2009, 12:17:23 pm »

Wonder how much Remy took in development fees to pocket? Stupid lenders.

Remy will have a big debt forgiveness tax to pay......perhaps those self paid fees will cover the liability to taxpayers....
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« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2009, 12:51:27 pm »

Polite way to say "Foreclosure" for sure.  They have art shows and gun shows scheduled through March at the S'pank great revenue generators, I'm sure.  Roll Eyes

"The Tulsa-based bank has taken over ownership and management of the 4,500-seat center in Bixby as well as Regal Plaza, a surrounding 130,000-square-foot retail and office complex, from the Remy Cos. in exchange for wiping out almost $28 million in mortgages.

The Remy Cos. constructed the $50 million project in 2006, and continued to operate Regal Plaza and the event center until transferring it to SpiritBank earlier this month, said Joyce Madewell, executive vice president of marketing for the bank.

She confirmed the property transfer in an e-mail SpiritBank sent to the Tulsa World. "


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« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2019, 11:28:07 am »

Church group buys SpiritBank Event Center in Bixby

A local event center where bands such as ZZ Top once performed and a professional basketball team used to play has been sold to a church group.

Greenwood Christian Center Inc., 1519 W. Pine St., this week purchased the SpiritBank Event Center, 10441 S. Regal Blvd. in Bixby, for $10.5 million, Tulsa County land records show.

SpiritBank had announced in June 2014 that it would no longer seek to host major events at the facility, which includes a 4,500-seat performance venue, while continuing to look for a buyer. The four-story building most recently has been used as office space and the arena for church services, a bank spokeswoman said.


https://www.tulsaworld.com/business/church-group-buys-spiritbank-event-center-in-bixby/article_b2d8f331-d214-5931-b510-f09f81d8ac16.html




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