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Started by Ed W, July 24, 2010, 06:22:17 PM

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custosnox

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on July 30, 2010, 01:00:24 PM
I kinda think that since the rider KNEW he was being followed by cops - he looked around to see them behind him once in the video - and the cop in front yelled out that he was a cop, and the black and white behind him was rolling up with lights and sirens at the same time - there was pretty solid evidence to this clown that he was being stopped by cops.  I believe it would stand up to more than a reasonable doubt argument that he did know they were cops.

At least if he didn't, and pulled a gun thinking these guys were hijackers and they blew him away, it would pretty much be a clear case of evolution in action.  He is already a walking organ donor driving the way he does - no brain up there - just warm body parts awaiting a transplant - so I guess I wouldn't be very sympathetic.  One can only hope he doesn't kill someone else with him when he goes out.






Actually, when he turns around and looks at the car behind him, it's an unmarked.  So, once again, how was he to know this was a cop?

sauerkraut

I heard all sorts of things about taking pictures in public, if you get a stranger in your shot  you need to get a written release from them in order to use that shot, unless you can't make out the person's face and can't tell who it is. (If it's for personal use only then other rules apply) Then for famous people there are no rules, they are hounded by cameras all the time and by the tabloid newspapers. The camera mounted stuff is all new and no doubt in time they will make laws about that stuff. Google is now making street level views of many of the nations bike trails with a cyclist riding the trails with a camera mounted on his bike of helmet.
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Quote from: sauerkraut on July 30, 2010, 03:42:21 PM
I heard all sorts of things about taking pictures in public, if you get a stranger in your shot  you need to get a written release from them in order to use that shot, unless you can't make out the person's face and can't tell who it is. (If it's for personal use only then other rules apply) Then for famous people there are no rules, they are hounded by cameras all the time and by the tabloid newspapers. The camera mounted stuff is all new and no doubt in time they will make laws about that stuff. Google is now making street level views of many of the nations bike trails with a cyclist riding the trails with a camera mounted on his bike of helmet.

How are the trails in Omaha?

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custosnox

Quote from: sauerkraut on July 30, 2010, 03:42:21 PM
I heard all sorts of things about taking pictures in public, if you get a stranger in your shot  you need to get a written release from them in order to use that shot, unless you can't make out the person's face and can't tell who it is. (If it's for personal use only then other rules apply) Then for famous people there are no rules, they are hounded by cameras all the time and by the tabloid newspapers. The camera mounted stuff is all new and no doubt in time they will make laws about that stuff. Google is now making street level views of many of the nations bike trails with a cyclist riding the trails with a camera mounted on his bike of helmet.
Actually, the laws remain the same regardless of a percieved level of fame.  What makes the differance is "news" publication and "entertainment" and/or commercial publications.  Your reference to "personal use" depends on what that personal use is.  So in other words, it doesn't matter who is photographed, or who is doing the photographing, it comes down to what the end use of said photograph is. 

patric

PAWNEE — The Pawnee County Sheriff's Office's claim that a broken camera prevented jailers from taking Sheriff Roger Price's mugshot is being disputed by people who were booked into the jail around the same time.

Price was charged July 14 in Pawnee County District Court with grand larceny and two counts of unauthorized use of a motor vehicle, all felonies.

He is accused of stealing a trailer and of driving two vehicles that were seized in drug arrests.

The Pawnee County Sheriff's Office's camera has worked, inmates say, but it hasn't captured the embattled sheriff's image.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100806_12_A16_PAWNEE767529
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Quote from: patric on August 06, 2010, 11:34:40 AM
PAWNEE — The Pawnee County Sheriff's Office's claim that a broken camera prevented jailers from taking Sheriff Roger Price's mugshot is being disputed by people who were booked into the jail around the same time.

Price was charged July 14 in Pawnee County District Court with grand larceny and two counts of unauthorized use of a motor vehicle, all felonies.

He is accused of stealing a trailer and of driving two vehicles that were seized in drug arrests.

The Pawnee County Sheriff's Office's camera has worked, inmates say, but it hasn't captured the embattled sheriff's image.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20100806_12_A16_PAWNEE767529

It was the flash, the flash didn't go off so we'll have to try again another time.

heironymouspasparagus

Because the car right behind the unmarked was marked, had lights flashing, and sirens running.

I didn't see it, but wouldn't be surprised if the unmarked had one of those little bubble-gum lights in the dash...
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custosnox

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 08, 2010, 08:46:04 AM
Because the car right behind the unmarked was marked, had lights flashing, and sirens running.

I didn't see it, but wouldn't be surprised if the unmarked had one of those little bubble-gum lights in the dash...

You didn't see it, but yet you are going to make an assumption it was there and therefore say that the guy on the bike had to see it?  And kinda funny, I didn't see any flashing lights behind the unmarked when he looked back.  In fact, didn't see anything behind it except road.

patric

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 08, 2010, 08:46:04 AM
Because the car right behind the unmarked was marked, had lights flashing, and sirens running.

The video didnt show any flashing lights, nor the audio any sirens.  When the guy came out of his car with a gun there was no way to tell that it was anything but a carjacking, and the department was probably embarrassed that their sloppiness was documented.
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

patric

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OAKLAND -- The Oakland school district has agreed to pay $99,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by a photojournalist over a confrontation with its former police chief during an October 2008 protest.

Jane Tyska, who works for Bay Area News Group's Oakland Tribune, was covering an immigration march in East Oakland's Fruitvale neighborhood when she was grazed by a squad car driven by Art Michel, the school district's former police chief.

Michel accused Tyska of intentionally swinging her elbow into his car, blocking the street, and trying to incite a riot among the mostly teenage protesters. Tyska's camera was rolling during part of the heated exchange, in which the police chief called her a "lying (expletive)." Michel detained Tyska and confiscated the videotape, but it was later returned to the Tribune. The District Attorney's Office declined to file charges against the journalist. Two months later, Michel resigned.

In December, Tyska filed suit against Michel and the school district, accusing the officer of violating civil rights laws, as well as of assault and battery. Representatives from the Oakland school district settled the case through mediation, said Tyska's attorney, Terry Gross, of Gross Belsky Alonso. Michel wasn't required to participate in the process, Gross said.

Troy Flint, a spokesman for the Oakland school district, said he hadn't heard about the settlement. But, he added, "obviously, the conduct in this incident was not the type we condone, and we're happy to put this behind us."

In a prepared statement, Tyska stated, "I'm very happy that the OUSD has taken responsibility for the actions of its former police chief. "... If it wasn't for the video I shot, this abuse of power would never have come to light. It's now illegal in a dozen states to record police activity, and this case is an excellent example of why that right needs to be protected. One of the reasons people often fear cameras is because they tell the truth."
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum