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[S.]

I don't really have to worry about this, as I don't have a car payment.  Gas in Seattle is WELL over $3.00 a gallon right now, so unless Tulsa's gas is over $3.50 a gallon, I think I'll do okay.  

quote:Originally posted by deinstein

Car Payment, Car Insurance and Gas override any argument simply because Tulsa does not have great public transportation system.

[S.]

I'm not too worried.  I'm coming back out that way because I want to, and because I want to be near my family.  I don't make enough money to be taking $40k cuts in salary, so I think you and I have a different set of things to think about.  Housing is definitely a LOT more affordable there - and, like I said, I think will make it so things about even out.  Prices here are unacceptable.  $400k is the median home price.  And I'm talking a small, average (at best), home with absolutely no yard, and sitting so close to your neighbor you can watch them shave in the morning.....

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

I took almost a $40,000 cut and I've been working on a budget and I'm telling you nothing is less in Tulsa, except for housing.  In fact I pay more for just about everything across the board.  But the local cheerleaders will tell you it's practically free to live here.  (That's how they justify their low wages.)  Why am I here?  How about a wonderful old house from the 20s that would have set me back several million in California.  The real estate market can fall apart and for what I paid, I'll survive.

[S.]

Look out - I'm definitely crazy, and arguably liberal....<wink>

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Hey, even if the COL, other than housing and gas are higher here, I'm willing to pay it as long as I don't have to deal with crazy, liberal Californiacs. []

[S.]

This is true.  I've lived in two big cities, now, where public transportation is available (subway, bus, etc.).  It's definitely something to look at in terms of cost.  In Boston, they've made driving into the city cost prohibitive (parking is a min. of $30/day), and the cost of commuting via train or subway much less expensive than driving.  In Seattle, it doesn't matter if you live right in the city and take the bus to work, or you live in the suburbs and drive in.  By the time you work out the difference in rent/mortgage and factor in the cost and time involved with transportation, it's definitely a wash.  

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

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Furthermore, if you dont have a car replace that cost with the cost of public transportation.  Depending on the car and the route it could be a wash.  I know I spend less on my car than my buddy does commuting to downtown Chicago by rail everyday. <snip>

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by S.

Look out - I'm definitely crazy, and arguably liberal....<wink>

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Hey, even if the COL, other than housing and gas are higher here, I'm willing to pay it as long as I don't have to deal with crazy, liberal Californiacs. []

Crazy and liberal, uh allright.  Just as long as you aren't a Californiac. []

One of the most liberal people I know (he's damn near a communist) moved out to Berkeley to get his "doctorate" in law.  The degree title is escaping me at the moment. (He's already got a J.D.- essentially, I believe he's wanting to become a prof).

At any rate he said Berkeley is so far out there, he's considered a conservative by their standards. [}:)]

[S.]

It's true!  Liberal is relative.  Out here, it's impossible to consider myself liberal.   There are WAY bigger commie pinkos HERE.  lol...

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by S.

Look out - I'm definitely crazy, and arguably liberal....<wink>

Crazy and liberal, uh allright.  Just as long as you aren't a Californiac. []

One of the most liberal people I know (he's damn near a communist) moved out to Berkeley to get his "doctorate" in law.  The degree title is escaping me at the moment. (He's already got a J.D.- essentially, I believe he's wanting to become a prof).

At any rate he said Berkeley is so far out there, he's considered a conservative by their standards. [}:)]