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SINGLE PAYER IS THE ONLY HEALTHY SOLUTION

Started by FOTD, June 08, 2009, 03:45:44 PM

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Conan71

Cute.  You are aware of this thingy called "Sooner Care" which is available for people who don't qualify or can't get their own health insurance in Oklahoma, right?  Similar to Cali One Care I would assume.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on August 11, 2009, 03:30:18 PM
Cute.  You are aware of this thingy called "Sooner Care" which is available for people who don't qualify or can't get their own health insurance in Oklahoma, right?  Similar to Cali One Care I would assume.

My mother uses it.  Godsend.  Her prescriptions are $2 and $1 ($2 for more than 30 days, $1 for 30 and under).  Lotta paperwork and sometimes DHS isn't real responsive.  You have to renew every year and last year (which was the end of her first) they never communicated that to her so that her insurance lapsed.  I reamed out some case workers and a supervisor over it.  Threatening to get the media involved got their cankles up.

FOTD

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FOTD still hoping!


HR Bill 676 Single Payer: Change You (Really) Can Believe In

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7607


Reagan was wrong....

guido911

Here's the hypocrite-in-chief on health care reforms (prescription drugs) in 2006. What a difference 3 years can make:

http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-flashback-combining-private-public-healthcare-sectors-worst-of-both-worlds/
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

FOTD

#110
Quote from: guido911 on August 29, 2009, 12:59:39 PM
Here's the hypocrite-in-chief on health care reforms (prescription drugs) in 2006. What a difference 3 years can make:

http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-flashback-combining-private-public-healthcare-sectors-worst-of-both-worlds/

Out of context....learn to debate....post up your sources! : http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/29/just-a-reminder-obamas-a-mindblowing-hypocrite-about-vicious-partisan-attacks/


http://factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-lies-about-hr-3200/

"Claim: Page 42: The "Health Choices Commissioner" will decide health benefits for you. You will have no choice. None.
False: The new Health Choices Commissioner will oversee a variety of choices to be offered through new insurance exchanges. The bill itself specifies the "minimum services to be covered" in a basic plan, including prescription drugs, mental health services, maternity and well-baby care and certain vaccines and preventive services (pages 27-28). We find nothing in the bill that prevents insurance companies from offering benefits that exceed the minimums. In fact, the legislation allows (page 84) any company that offers an approved basic plan to offer also an "enhanced" plan, a "premium" plan and even a "premium plus" plan that could include vision and dental benefits. "

The KKK and white racists from un-free republic are at it again screaming hate and obscenity at our ELECTED president (unlike the Never elected bush.)

These EVIL, hate filled people need to go back to the darkness from which they crawled out from.



FOTD


FOTD



the video is worth watching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHVwrCzRUX0

BILLIONAIRES FOR WEALTHCARE" GROUP MOCKS OPPONENTS OF HEALTHCARE REFORM AT TOWNHALL FORUM
Source: East County Magazine

August 30, 2009 (Spring Valley) – A rowdy crowd of approximately 1,500 turned out to cheer on and heckle Congresswoman Susan Davis (D-San Diego) during a town hall meeting in Spring Valley Saturday afternoon. Protests from conservative "teabaggers" and signs with racist overtones were countered by a newly-formed group calling itself "Billionaires for Wealthcare." (photo).

Dressed in formal attire, members pulled up in a limousine to greet other protesters, thanking them for "standing with billionaires" to oppose real healthcare reform. The group later posted a YouTube video and forwarded an e-mail that read "Townhall crashed by wealthy Hollywood elite," creating an online sensation.


Inspired by the website www.billionairesforwealthcare.com , Barbara Cummings of Spring Valley was among those to don black attire and pearls for the occasion "because sometimes street theater can have an impact where just yelling at one another accomplishes nothing," Cummings said.

Davis staffers passed out information on healthcare reform including answers to common questions—answers many in the crowd apparently had no inclination to read. Although the majority of the crowd seemed in favor of healthcare reform, those opposed were not content to wait their turn to be called upon to ask questions. Instead, many shouted out insults to the Congresswoman and some uttered racial slurs including "******" against President Barack Obama.


Read more: http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/?q=node/1814

guido911

Isn't this just a recycled version of Billionaires for Bush?

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: FOTD on August 31, 2009, 11:10:39 AM
those opposed were not content to wait their turn to be called upon to ask questions. Instead, many shouted out insults to the Congresswoman and some uttered racial slurs including "******" against President Barack Obama.
Ah, I love the smell of astroturf.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

FOTD

Sorry, Mr. President, you're wrong this time.

Obama Declares Single Payer Not the Silver Bullet that Will Save Health Care, But Mr. Prez, It's the Closest Thing We've Got - $400 Billion/year Saved
By: libbyliberal Monday September 21, 2009 12:12 am

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/8336

Bush III?


FOTD

FOTD is starting to admire the relentless nature of Repiglicans....the Dumbicrats do not get it....

Michael Moore tells Blue Dogs 'We will remove you from office.'


Why the Current Bills Don't Solve Our Health Care Crisis


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-moore/why-the-current-bills-don_b_302483.html

Co-authored with Rose Ann DeMoro, executive director, California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee
"Now we know why they've stopped calling this health care reform, and started calling it insurance reform. The current bills advancing in Congress look more like rearranging the deck chairs on the insurance Titanic than actually ending our long health care nightmare.
Some laudable elements are in various versions of the bills, especially expanding Medicaid, cutting the private insurance-padding waste of Medicare Advantage, and limiting the ability of the insurance giants to ban and dump people who have been or who ever will be sick.
But, overall, the leading bills and the President's proposal are, like the dog that didn't bark, more notable for what is missing.
Here are 13 problems with the current health care bills (partial list):
1. No cost controls on insurance companies. The coming sharp increases in premiums, deductibles, co-pays, co-insurance, etc. will quickly outpace any projected protections from caps on out-of-pocket costs.
2. Insurance companies will continue to be able to use marketing techniques to cherry-pick healthier, less costly enrollees.
3. No restrictions on insurance denials of care that insurers don't want to pay for. In case you missed it, the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee uncovered data on the California Department of Managed Care website recently that found six of the biggest California insurers rejected, on annual average, more than one-fifth of all claims every year since 2002.
4. No challenge to insurance company monopolies, especially in the top 94 metropolitan areas, where one or two companies dominate, severely limiting choice and competition.
5. A massive government bailout for the insurance industry through the combination of the individual mandate requiring everyone not covered to buy insurance, public subsidies which go for buying insurance, no regulation on what insurers can charge, and no restrictions on their ability to decide what claims to pay.
6. No controls on drug prices. The White House deal with Big Pharma, which won bipartisan approval in the Senate Finance Committee, opposes the use of government leverage to negotiate real cost controls on inflated drug prices.
7. No single standard of care. Our multi-tiered system remains with access to care still determined by ability to pay.
8. Tax on comprehensive insurance plans. That will encourage employers to reduce benefits, shift more costs to employees, promote proliferation of bare-bones, high-deductible plans, and lead to more self-rationing of care and medical bankruptcies.
9. Not universal. Some people will remain uncovered, including those exempted, and undocumented workers, denying them treatment, exposing everyone to communicable diseases and inflating health care costs.
10. No definition of covered benefits.
11. No protection for our public safety net. Public hospitals and clinics will continue to be under-funded and a dumping ground for those the private system doesn't want. Public monies going to hospitals serving low-income communities will be shifted to subsidies for private insurance.
12. Long delay in implementation. Many reforms don't go into effect until 2013.
13. Nothing changes in basic structure of the system; health care remains a privilege, not a right.
We may be slow learners, but the rest of the industrial world has figured it out: Universal, single-payer or national health care systems. That's the reason why all those other countries cover everyone, have better patient outcomes, cause no one to declare bankruptcy or lose their homes because of medical bills, and spend less than half per capita on health care than we do.
We could do it too, by reducing the starting age for Medicare from 65 to 0. There's still time to act.
Call on your Congress member to support the vote coming up on the House floor on the Anthony Weiner amendment to protect, expand and improve Medicare for All. Senators have the same opportunity in a vote on Senate bill 703, being offered as a floor amendment by Senator Bernie Sanders.

Democrats must also ensure that whatever bill passes includes a provision enabling states to set up their own single-payer systems. These votes are the true litmus tests of the Democrats' commitment to guaranteeing health care for all, and finally solving our health care crisis.



Hoss

Oh no, Bob Dole supports healthcare reform!

I wonder how long before Rushbo and the Cryer start denouncing him as a RINO?

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/6136

FOTD

 One doesn't need a study. It's obvious that it would be a HUGE stimulus. But no, we have to dish out untold trillions to the banks. Can't do Single Payer. That's too revolutionary.   Interesting.  Why weren't these studies done and reported first? You know, before they took Single-Payer OFF OF THE TABLE.
First-of-Its Kind Study: Medicare for All (Single-Payer) Reform Would Be Major Stimulus for Economy with 2.6 Million New Jobs, $317 Billion in Business Revenue, $100 Billion in Wages

http://www.calnurses.org/media-center/press-releases/2009/january/first-of-its-kind-study-medicare-for-all-single-payer-reform-would-be-major-stimulus-for-economy-with-2-6-million-new-jobs-317-billion-in-business-revenue-100-billion-in-wages.html





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