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Miles and miles of new sod really worth it on 169?

Started by Mike 01Hawk, January 12, 2009, 10:26:27 AM

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January 12, 2009, 10:26:27 AM Last Edit: January 12, 2009, 10:27:14 AM by Mike 01Hawk
So I'm traveling north bound on US-169 this morning between 244 and Owasso.  This is where they're doing the new cable barrier project in the median.  Well I look over and I thought my eyes were deceiving me.  I look a bit closer and YUP... that's sod!!! [V] Miles and miles of new sod!!!  

Now I'm sure we should protect against erosion and runoff and whatnot.  But was sod really necessary considering this area?  I'm wondering if the highway commission even thought about seeding or plugs.  Sigh.

I'd guesstimate 4 miles x 10 yards of coverage btw.

sgrizzle

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January 12, 2009, 10:43:43 AM
Considering this area invented the dust bowl, I'd say sod in the middle of a wide open space is a pretty solid choice.

Mike 01Hawk

#2
January 12, 2009, 10:48:59 AM
Uhh... unregulated farming techniques on millions of acres of land with no trees lines to act as wind breaks != 4 mile strip of land.

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TURobY

#3
January 12, 2009, 10:51:17 AM
I wouldn't mind some sod for my backyard. Anyone have a pickup truck? I know where we can get some free sod...
---Robert

naenae42day

#4
January 12, 2009, 10:56:27 AM
I wonder if the new cable barriers are worth it.  They just put in miles of the barrier from about hwy 11 north on 75, and the are already huge sections that the cables are broken, the poles are flat.
I guess it keeps the workers busy fixing it.  Was that included in the 900+ million in stimulus we asked for?

cannon_fodder

#5
January 12, 2009, 11:35:40 AM
spray over seeding (with the straw/glue mixture fr cover) would work just as well for about 1/10th the cost.  Not like anyone comments on how nice the median lawn is.
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patric

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January 12, 2009, 11:48:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by naenae42day

I wonder if the new cable barriers are worth it.  They just put in miles of the barrier from about hwy 11 north on 75, and the are already huge sections that the cables are broken, the poles are flat.
I guess it keeps the workers busy fixing it.  Was that included in the 900+ million in stimulus we asked for?


They were installed to be "cheaper" than real barriers, but in reality they will be in a perpetual state of repair/disrepair and will cost many times more.  But it's only tax money.

We discussed it http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7094
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

sgrizzle

#7
January 12, 2009, 01:26:57 PM
They are very cheap/easy to repair and installed at a fraction of the cost of other physical barriers and far less lethal.

RecycleMichael

#8
January 12, 2009, 01:31:19 PM
Four miles of sod in a straight line...that is like a par five for me.
Power is nothing till you use it.

carltonplace

#9
January 12, 2009, 01:33:49 PM
Its winter...they should have used the blue foam.

citizen72

#10
January 12, 2009, 03:17:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

spray over seeding (with the straw/glue mixture fr cover) would work just as well for about 1/10th the cost.  Not like anyone comments on how nice the median lawn is.


Have to agree on that. A good watering program is essential though.
^^^^^

"Never a skillful sailor made who always sailed calm seas."

Ibanez

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January 12, 2009, 03:23:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by naenae42day

I wonder if the new cable barriers are worth it.  They just put in miles of the barrier from about hwy 11 north on 75, and the are already huge sections that the cables are broken, the poles are flat.
I guess it keeps the workers busy fixing it.  Was that included in the 900+ million in stimulus we asked for?


They would be worth it if they had been installed properly.

I see that type of system all the time when I'm going through Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, etc.... and none of their installations look like ours.

Typical Oklahoma....if you can't do something right, do it anyway.

godboko71

#12
January 12, 2009, 04:08:31 PM
Seeming as we always run short on mowing money, why do we not use other ground coverings that require less maintenance?
Thank you,
Robert Town

Ed W

#13
January 12, 2009, 05:02:23 PM
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Originally posted by sgrizzle

They are very cheap/easy to repair and installed at a fraction of the cost of other physical barriers and far less lethal.


"Far less lethal" for motorists.  Don't hit one on a motorcycle.  It's wrong to install something that benefits one type of road user while increasing the hazards for another.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

sgrizzle

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January 12, 2009, 08:55:20 PM
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Originally posted by Ed W

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

They are very cheap/easy to repair and installed at a fraction of the cost of other physical barriers and far less lethal.


"Far less lethal" for motorists.  Don't hit one on a motorcycle.  It's wrong to install something that benefits one type of road user while increasing the hazards for another.


When "one type of motorist" makes up 99% of them, I'll take it.
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