Large University Gifts

[bokworker]

Originally posted by naenae42day

Help me to understand something.  I don't follow university politics very closely, but I am curious.  I read that the OSU AD donated $1 million to the school.  While donations are AWESOME!! I have to wonder...WHY on earth is anyone at this school making enough money to make that kind of donation.  This is still a state school right?  Does anyone really deserve a million dollar salary?  While I have no idea the AD's annual salary...it must be substantial to be able to give away $1 million.

Mike Holder, the former OSU golf coach and now the OSU AD has done very well investing over the years. it was his relationship with boone Pickens that started that whole ball rolling. I would suspect, but don't know, that most if not all of the money was made from investing with Boone. Not a return of his "salary". I don't have the information at my fingertips but his salary is public information.  

[jackbristow]

quote:Originally posted by bokworker

Originally posted by naenae42day

Help me to understand something.  I don't follow university politics very closely, but I am curious.  I read that the OSU AD donated $1 million to the school.  While donations are AWESOME!! I have to wonder...WHY on earth is anyone at this school making enough money to make that kind of donation.  This is still a state school right?  Does anyone really deserve a million dollar salary?  While I have no idea the AD's annual salary...it must be substantial to be able to give away $1 million.

Mike Holder, the former OSU golf coach and now the OSU AD has done very well investing over the years. it was his relationship with boone Pickens that started that whole ball rolling. I would suspect, but don't know, that most if not all of the money was made from investing with Boone. Not a return of his "salary". I don't have the information at my fingertips but his salary is public information.  

You are right in that Holder has invested with Boone for a LONG time as they are buddies going back to the 80s.  

Holder works for OSU for $1 per year.  That's right.  $1

He doesn't need a salary.  He loves OSU and truly is working for it's best interest and is trying to make it the best Athletic Department in the nation.

[SXSW]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:Originally posted by SXSW

There is no reason OSU-Stillwater and OSU-Tulsa can't BOTH be equally respected universities.  Sure the Stillwater campus has the facilities, athletics, and history but the Tulsa campus is on its way it just needs more funding.  Many of the OSU alums donate to Stillwater which is why it is important for Tulsa, Tulsa County, and local donors like the Helmerichs (who donated money to build the ARTC) and Kaiser to step up.  

I think the general thinking that OSU-Stillwater and Tulsa are "one" campus is fine but at the same time I'd like to see the Tulsa campus develop its own identity.  A good example is in Wisconsin where UW-Madision and UW-Milwaukee are both respected universities: one more all-encompassing and agricultural in a college town (like Stillwater) and one in an urban setting with appropriate programs like business, engineering, technology, etc. (like Tulsa).  Both thrive off each other and are linked through the UW name and system but have separate identities i.e. UW-Madison Badgers and UW-Milwaukee Panthers.  I'd like to eventually see the same with OSU-Tulsa; stay linked through shared programs and funding to Stillwater but develop its own (non-orange and Pistol Pete) idendity in downtown Tulsa.

Let OSU Stillwater have "Football". OSU Tulsa have "Soccer". [8D]

I would also like to see the TCC Metro campus be tied more closely to OSU Tulsa. On the brochures, class schedules, etc. at the TCC metro campus, have both the OSU Tulsa logo and TCC Metro logos right next to each other. Even on the TCC Metro Campus have OSU Tulsa and TCC Metro, flags flying. Create an image and identity of them being tied together. Enlarges both in peoples minds. TCC Metro students could even live at the OSU Tulsa housing... if they ever build any. Some TCC Metro students are living at the new TU Housing and will, and are, probably go on to TU to finish their degrees. A closer connection with TCC Metro and OSU Tulsa is a logical pairing. Would also be nice to share sports facilities. Also if there are specific programs that are at OSU Tulsa, having the first year classes of that program at TCC Metro might be useful as well. Versus building those facilities at the Southeast campus for instance.

NSU BA and TCC South campus could do similar pairings where applicable. With the PAC at the Southeast Campus, perhaps it would be nice if NSU BA had some Theater Arts programs or Music programs.

Each graduate university isnt competing for state funds and duplicating programs, but focusing on unique programs thus enlarging what can be offered in the Tulsa area. Rather than NSU BA and OSU both having small Engineering programs for instance,,, for the same amount of money one could have a larger Engineering program, the other a larger program focusing on something else. Same with the TCC campuses.


Say you had a great graphic arts/design program at OSU Tulsa, make sure that TCC metro focuses on arts facilities as well. Perhaps NSU BA focuses on something else and doesnt do a lot of art or design, TCC wouldnt then want to spend a lot of money on facilities to do that at the Sotheast Campus. Plus, if a student moves to one part of town or another, perhaps in the future lives on either the OSU or NSU Campuses, it would be far easier to have such classes and programs focused at the nearest TCC campus. Each TCC campus can have general classes, but also have specific facilities that match the specific programs of the college nearest them. Each TCC Campus could have a slightly different focus and identity matching that of the nearby University. Business, Science Technology, Arts, medical, etc.  

Just a thought.

I like the idea of TCC Metro and OSU-Tulsa working together.  Though I would like to see student housing available at both campuses.  Underclassmen living in south downtown by TCC and upperclassmen/grad students living west of OSU or in Brady.  Have a bus that connects the two until we get streetcars downtown.

What role does OU-Tulsa play with its medical programs?  I know they also have an architecture-urban design graduate program.  I've always thought it would be cool to see them move into an historic Art Deco building downtown and have a Tulsa architecture museum on the ground floor and then their classrooms & studios on the second/third floors.  They could even pair up with the undergraduate arch. programs at OU and OSU to offer year, semester, or summer studios in downtown Tulsa focusing on historic preservation and urban design.  I know I would've done something like that in downtown Tulsa when I was a student at OU...