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« on: March 31, 2023, 12:48:52 am » |
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Noitices arrived today. I think the increase in the "Fair Cash Market Value" for my home is ABSURD. Anyone else care to speak up?
Fortunately, with the homestead exemption, increases in taxable value are limited to 3%/year. Otherwise we would be the next California. I would have to sell the house where i have lived for 40+ years to live in a hovel. Grrrr!
Remember, an increase in the value of your home increases your taxes. Maybe not so bad if you are young and still working. Not so wonderful if one is retired and not living in poverty. But still, 3%/year adds up.
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heironymouspasparagus
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2023, 05:39:16 pm » |
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Noitices arrived today. I think the increase in the "Fair Cash Market Value" for my home is ABSURD. Anyone else care to speak up?
Fortunately, with the homestead exemption, increases in taxable value are limited to 3%/year. Otherwise we would be the next California. I would have to sell the house where i have lived for 40+ years to live in a hovel. Grrrr!
Remember, an increase in the value of your home increases your taxes. Maybe not so bad if you are young and still working. Not so wonderful if one is retired and not living in poverty. But still, 3%/year adds up.
Saw a bumper sticker one time. Gotta get some made... BOHICA! Bend Over Here It Comes Again! Texas is MUCH worse! Tennessee is also much worse! |
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TheArtist
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2023, 08:03:39 pm » |
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Our homes value almost doubled. Egads. Glad its gone up, but that is surprising.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2023, 08:30:25 pm » |
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Our homes value almost doubled. Egads. Glad its gone up, but that is surprising.
My house went up almost 50% |
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Red Arrow
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2023, 09:12:09 pm » |
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Texas is MUCH worse! Tennessee is also much worse! I've known a few folks that have lived in Texas. Tax structure is different there. OK typically compares taxes in other states without the total package. "Our property tax is less than....., our sales tax is less than.... blah blah blah. Oklahoma has lower rates than many cherry picked states but we HAVE THEM ALL. |
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Red Arrow
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2023, 09:20:29 pm » |
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Our homes value almost doubled. Egads. Glad its gone up, but that is surprising.
My place is certainly worth more than what my parents paid for it in 1971 but a 53% increase from 2022 to 2023 is ABSURD. Acceptable to keep up with inflation but doing the California thing is just plain wrong. A lot of people in my neighborhood have lived here for decades. My place still has formica counter tops, wood paneling walls in the living room, olive green tile in the bathrooms, a concrete slab floor without wood overlay.... It suits me fine. The wall oven is 24" wide and a remake to use a modern 30" wide oven would take a complete kitchen make-over. A few sales to people trying to avoid capital gains taxes should not influence the FCMV of our houses. The Assessor's no look model is the lazy way out. Yaezel was terrible but Wright is no better. I admit that I don't want the Assessor examining the interior of my house every year but there needs to be a better way somehow. |
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Red Arrow
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2023, 09:31:36 pm » |
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My house went up almost 50%
Think it's really worth that much? COVID had a lot of folks from California looking for someplace else. They were/are willing to pay California prices for a place in Oklahoma to avoid Capital Gains Taxes. Are we going to have a housing price CRASH here in Oklahoma in a year or so? Think the assessed value of your home will reflect that? I doubt it. I don't plan to sell before I pass-on so the "increased value" of this place doesn't help me other than the insurance company recognizing that replacement value is more than my parents paid for the place in 1971. |
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Red Arrow
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2023, 09:41:43 pm » |
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i really hope that this thread doesn't bring the Assessor's Gestapo down on us.  |
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Red Arrow
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2023, 09:47:27 pm » |
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Think you own your home?
Try not paying your taxes for a few years.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2023, 10:14:07 pm » |
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Think it's really worth that much? COVID had a lot of folks from California looking for someplace else. They were/are willing to pay California prices for a place in Oklahoma to avoid Capital Gains Taxes. Are we going to have a housing price CRASH here in Oklahoma in a year or so? Think the assessed value of your home will reflect that? I doubt it.
I don't plan to sell before I pass-on so the "increased value" of this place doesn't help me other than the insurance company recognizing that replacement value is more than my parents paid for the place in 1971.
I would estimate it's worth more than the what the assessor says. Houses in my subdivision in Jenks don't last two days on the market. There are zero houses available today. Nor any near me in other subdivisions. New houses the size of mine near me in Jenks go for 50% more than what my new valuation is. It's crazy and has not stopped with the increase in rates. |
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2023, 07:15:28 am » |
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Our home went up about 30% but it only increased our taxes $50 for the year. I was thinking about fighting it since that's pretty easy to do especially since our house needs work (and is getting worked on constantly), but - eh - I had other things to do worth more than $50. Houses in our neighborhood still sell for almost twice what the assessment has them at, so it could've been worse. Just glad they don't do this with commercial properties, or at least they haven't (maybe a lack of comparables?)
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Red Arrow
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2023, 10:09:27 am » |
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New houses the size of mine near me in Jenks go for 50% more than what my new valuation is. I think the newest houses near me were built in the 90s. New with all the bells and whistles, new water heater, new HVAC, wired for home internet/entertainment .... new houses probably should be more expensive than older houses. Some people have too much money. I'm not one of them. |
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2023, 04:34:12 pm » |
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I think the newest houses near me were built in the 90s.
New with all the bells and whistles, new water heater, new HVAC, wired for home internet/entertainment .... new houses probably should be more expensive than older houses.
Some people have too much money. I'm not one of them.
We bought our house while it was under construction in 2001. There are always new subdivisions around us, though now the land is running out. |
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2023, 08:06:02 pm » |
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I've known a few folks that have lived in Texas. Tax structure is different there. OK typically compares taxes in other states without the total package. "Our property tax is less than....., our sales tax is less than.... blah blah blah. Oklahoma has lower rates than many cherry picked states but we HAVE THEM ALL.
True! Only have 3 real comparisons and each the total tax bill in TX was about 2.5 times here. Property tax for them getting similar houses there was almost 4 times. Ouch! But then I have a relative in Seattle area - on an island - who literally was taxed out of the house they built by hand in 1980-1983. Projected taxes for them at retirement (about 5 years ago, projecting 9 years ahead) would have been right at $2,200 a month! They sold and moved into the city. |
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"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?" --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.
I don’t share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently. I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.
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Red Arrow
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2023, 09:58:12 pm » |
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We bought our house while it was under construction in 2001. There are always new subdivisions around us, though now the land is running out.
Maybe within the city limits of Jenks but there is plenty of land to the south to put 3000 or so houses per square mile with nothing to support them. I don't want to live "in the city" but I also don't want to live 10 ft from my neighbors and have to drive 15 miles to a grocery store. |
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