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« on: May 27, 2020, 01:13:34 pm »

Four Minneapolis officers fired after arrest of man who later died...

            https://youtu.be/LHw-HVreQho

Hope justice given to these officers for this unnecessary death of this individual.

No person already handcuffed should be treated like what you see on this video.
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2020, 05:44:07 pm »

Here's the full length of this video.  Just imagine if this happened to one of your relatives or friends...

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CUzlr_1590497244

Whatever he did this individual didn't deserve to be executed on the spot by police acting as judge, jurors and executioners.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2020, 12:14:09 am »

Four Minneapolis officers fired after arrest of man who later died...
            https://youtu.be/LHw-HVreQho
Hope justice given to these officers for this unnecessary death of this individual.
No person already handcuffed should be treated like what you see on this video.


Minnesota sends 500 National Guard soldiers to Minneapolis and nearby areas as protests grow over George Floyd's death
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-george-floyd-friday/index.html

CNN crew arrested live on air in Minneapolis
Police later lie about arrest on Twitter
"The crew's arrest is a counterpoint to anyone who says, 'All you have to do is comply; all you have to do is use your nice inside voice, and the police will leave you alone'.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arrested/index.html

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2020, 08:08:40 pm »

Watched MSNBC and CNN last night.  

Glad to hear they finally arrested police Officer Derek Chauvin, 44 taken into custody and charged with third degree murder.


                                    
 

                                    

George Floyd and Derek Chauvin once worked overlapping security shifts at the same nightclub: https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/george-floyd-officer-derek-chauvin-security-club-trnd/index.html

Organizers plan protests throughout metro in response to George Floyd’s death . . .

                    

The Black Lives Matter protest in Oklahoma City will be Sunday, May 31 at 2:30 p.m. at 36th Street & Kelley.
 
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2020, 08:25:48 pm »

All four officers have to be arrested.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2020, 09:30:29 pm »


Minnesota sends 500 National Guard soldiers to Minneapolis and nearby areas as protests grow over George Floyd's death

CNN crew arrested live on air in Minneapolis
Police later lie about arrest on Twitter
"The crew's arrest is a counterpoint to anyone who says, 'All you have to do is comply; all you have to do is use your nice inside voice, and the police will leave you alone'.


And that was a different police agency - state police, not locals.  Shows the rot and corruption is endemic throughout their state, not just one group of bad cops.  Saw a meme that said, "If you have 1,000 good cops, and 10 bad cops, and the good cops don't report the bad cops, you have 1,010 bad cops."

Just another case that highlights the problem with police unions.  It's always "circle the wagons" rather than do what's right.  They always protect the bad, no matter how egregious.


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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2020, 02:52:45 pm »

All four officers have to be arrested.


This is global.

https://news.sky.com/video/george-floyd-hundreds-march-in-london-in-support-of-us-protests-11998065

LONDON — Street protests over the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis went global over the weekend, as demonstrators in London, Berlin and Toronto gathered under banners declaring that Black Lives Matter and called for an end to police brutality in the United States and around the world.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/george-floyd-police-protests-london-berlin-toronto/2020/05/31/cf4485e8-a357-11ea-898e-b21b9a83f792_story.html
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This is global.

https://news.sky.com/video/george-floyd-hundreds-march-in-london-in-support-of-us-protests-11998065

LONDON — Street protests over the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis went global over the weekend, as demonstrators in London, Berlin and Toronto gathered under banners declaring that Black Lives Matter and called for an end to police brutality in the United States and around the world.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/george-floyd-police-protests-london-berlin-toronto/2020/05/31/cf4485e8-a357-11ea-898e-b21b9a83f792_story.html



China and Russia both having a field day rubbing our nose in the "civil rights" lectures we have given them over the years.




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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2020, 10:47:39 pm »

China and Russia both having a field day rubbing our nose in the "civil rights" lectures we have given them over the years.


Shrinking the scope of police responsibilities

To fix policing, we must first recognize how much we have come to over-rely on law enforcement. We turn to the police in situations where years of experience and common sense tell us that their involvement is unnecessary, and can make things worse. We ask police to take accident reports, respond to people who have overdosed and arrest, rather than cite, people who might have intentionally or not passed a counterfeit $20 bill. We call police to roust homeless people from corners and doorsteps, resolve verbal squabbles between family members and strangers alike, and arrest children for behavior that once would have been handled as a school disciplinary issue.

Police themselves often complain about having to “do too much,” including handling social problems for which they are ill-equipped. Some have been vocal about the need to decriminalize social problems and take police out of the equation. It is clear that we must reimagine the role they play in public safety.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/07/defund-police-heres-what-that-really-means/
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Shrinking the scope of police responsibilities

To fix policing, we must first recognize how much we have come to over-rely on law enforcement. We turn to the police in situations where years of experience and common sense tell us that their involvement is unnecessary, and can make things worse. We ask police to take accident reports, respond to people who have overdosed and arrest, rather than cite, people who might have intentionally or not passed a counterfeit $20 bill. We call police to roust homeless people from corners and doorsteps, resolve verbal squabbles between family members and strangers alike, and arrest children for behavior that once would have been handled as a school disciplinary issue.

Police themselves often complain about having to “do too much,” including handling social problems for which they are ill-equipped. Some have been vocal about the need to decriminalize social problems and take police out of the equation. It is clear that we must reimagine the role they play in public safety.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/07/defund-police-heres-what-that-really-means/


Generally agree, with the exception that "somebody" has to do all of that stuff and I don't think it is a good idea to have the random person, who would also be trying to handle problems " for which they are ill-equipped", and could lead to other related escalations.   Retrain, increase the force, create different divisions, etc.   But of course that takes money, and in general we always seem to want something for nothing.
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2020, 10:04:59 am »

Generally agree, with the exception that "somebody" has to do all of that stuff and I don't think it is a good idea to have the random person, who would also be trying to handle problems " for which they are ill-equipped", and could lead to other related escalations.   Retrain, increase the force, create different divisions, etc.   But of course that takes money, and in general we always seem to want something for nothing.


Why would it have to be a "random person?"  Dont we have qualified. licensed and pedigreed mental health professionals to take over for the mental health calls?
Why do we default to just showing up with guns?

As for the money, the cities that are gearing up for this are using funds that would have gone to PD for the same task, but spending the money better.
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Why would it have to be a "random person?"  Dont we have qualified. licensed and pedigreed mental health professionals to take over for the mental health calls?
Why do we default to just showing up with guns?

As for the money, the cities that are gearing up for this are using funds that would have gone to PD for the same task, but spending the money better.


Well, yeah, that's what I was alluding to.  We will need a trained force of some kind to handle all (or at least most) of these issues.  I just don't think we want to abdicate some form of official responsibly/response.    What banner is it under?  I don't have a major opinion.   It could be a specially trained wing of the police that responds specifically to domestic disturbances, for example.  Or, we could leverage existing organizations working in tandem with the police as part of a general dispatch service, or similar.  But either way, it's going to take funding, and probably more funding than we are currently providing, to get it right.
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2020, 11:09:03 am »


TPD Major: Police Shoot Black Americans 'Less Than We Probably Ought To'

https://www.publicradiotulsa.org/post/tpd-major-police-shoot-black-americans-less-we-probably-ought

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TPD Major: Police Shoot Black Americans 'Less Than We Probably Ought To'

https://www.publicradiotulsa.org/post/tpd-major-police-shoot-black-americans-less-we-probably-ought



This guy should have been fired years ago. What a racist loon.
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2020, 04:04:41 pm »

TPD Major: Police Shoot Black Americans 'Less Than We Probably Ought To'

https://www.publicradiotulsa.org/post/tpd-major-police-shoot-black-americans-less-we-probably-ought




And Bynum said he thought Terence Crutcher shooting was not about race...more about drugs...   Not quite as bonehead a comment as that cop saying they should be shooting more blacks, but close!

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