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« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2021, 06:44:30 pm »

My guess would be the delay is for additional fundraising.
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« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2021, 07:54:02 pm »

My guess would be the delay is for additional fundraising.

That makes sense.
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« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2021, 11:26:37 pm »

The museum is closing July 5 for 2-3 years.  Renderings will be released this summer

https://tulsaworld.com/entertainment/gilcrease-museum-closes-july-5-to-prepare-for-new-facility-construction/article_4aee3c1e-9c83-11eb-af31-afc65d5fe35e.html
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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2021, 01:29:23 am »

Here is additional information from a Kevin Canfield TulsaWorld article Feb 20, 2020 when it was announced Gilcrease would be downsized from the current 134,000sf to 89,000sf.  Originally, the idea was to add 10,000sf to the existing building's renovation.

 "The city’s decision to build a new, smaller Gilcrease Museum, rather than renovate and add to the existing structure, was based on two related facts: the building is in bad shape, and rebuilding it to today’s museum standards would cost much more than the city has to spend.

How much more? About $17 million, according to an analysis of the structure done by SmithGroup, the lead architect on the project."

"The new 89,000-square-foot museum won’t be able to accommodate Gilcrease’s “100% wish list,” Anderson acknowledged, but should set it up for the next 50 years by providing flexible spaces and room for growth."

https://tulsaworld.com/entertainment/renovating-expanding-gilcrease-museum-would-have-cost-17-million-more-than-city-had-budgeted-analysis/article_c26848df-ee5e-5cfd-a47b-ae46690c5a5a.html

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« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2021, 08:08:03 am »

Here is additional information from a Kevin Canfield TulsaWorld article Feb 20, 2020 when it was announced Gilcrease would be downsized from the current 134,000sf to 89,000sf.  Originally, the idea was to add 10,000sf to the existing building's renovation.

 "The city’s decision to build a new, smaller Gilcrease Museum, rather than renovate and add to the existing structure, was based on two related facts: the building is in bad shape, and rebuilding it to today’s museum standards would cost much more than the city has to spend.

How much more? About $17 million, according to an analysis of the structure done by SmithGroup, the lead architect on the project."

"The new 89,000-square-foot museum won’t be able to accommodate Gilcrease’s “100% wish list,” Anderson acknowledged, but should set it up for the next 50 years by providing flexible spaces and room for growth."

https://tulsaworld.com/entertainment/renovating-expanding-gilcrease-museum-would-have-cost-17-million-more-than-city-had-budgeted-analysis/article_c26848df-ee5e-5cfd-a47b-ae46690c5a5a.html



Makes sense, build to the budget now and expand later.  Crystal Bridges did the same thing and just announced their expansion.  I hope the new museum highlights the views to the west, it’s really a beautiful area with the forest and hills.
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« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2021, 08:15:22 am »


Cool.  The design process must be going faster than they ha originally anticipated.
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« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2021, 09:32:28 am »

Renderings it looks like from one of the consultants who is helping plan the interior:

https://www.gallagherdesign.com/projects/gilcrease-museum/

Bet these get taken down too lol.

https://museuminsider.co.uk/opportunity/gilcrease-museum-2/

No luck finding anything for exterior rendering from Smith Group or 1Architecture
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« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2021, 09:34:48 am »

Renderings it looks like from one of the consultants who is helping plan the interior:

https://www.gallagherdesign.com/projects/gilcrease-museum/

Bet these get taken down too lol.

https://museuminsider.co.uk/opportunity/gilcrease-museum-2/

No luck finding anything for exterior rendering from Smith Group or 1Architecture

This was when they originally were going to renovate - I'm sure it has changed quite a bit but I liked this design.  This is SmithGroup's portfolio - they do some amazing projects: https://www.smithgroup.com/our-work/projects#all





I hope they take full advantage of the scenic Osage Hills backdrop
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« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2021, 10:51:22 am »

Ah yes you are correct, morning brain can't tell the difference between 2020 and 2021 ha.

I do hope the new museum has some sort of elevated event/gathering space like that original concept to take advantage of the views too. I hope some of the budget does go to site improvements too - that's part of the charm of a lot of museums is the outdoor spaces too (Getty, Philbrook, Crystal Bridges, etc.)

While not an art museum, this would be something given the terrain of the site that would really make Gilcrease unique if they did something like the California Academy of Sciences roof:

https://www.google.com/search?q=california+academy+of+sciences+roof&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjXqMfT2YDwAhX9gU4HHWPICqgQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=california+academy+of+sciences+roof&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgAMgIIADIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeOggIABCxAxCDAToFCAAQsQM6BAgAEEM6BwgAELEDEEM6BggAEAUQHjoECAAQGFCQggVYkrAFYLOzBWgAcAB4AIABQYgB0AeSAQIxOJgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=3m14YNfBBP2DuuoP45CrwAo&bih=920&biw=1524&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS892US897

Green roofs are expensive, but imagine the views from a living rooftop and being able to walk around. Given budget constrains I'll be happy with some sort of view room being incorporated somewhere.
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« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2021, 02:16:16 am »

Ah yes you are correct, morning brain can't tell the difference between 2020 and 2021 ha.

I do hope the new museum has some sort of elevated event/gathering space like that original concept to take advantage of the views too. I hope some of the budget does go to site improvements too - that's part of the charm of a lot of museums is the outdoor spaces too (Getty, Philbrook, Crystal Bridges, etc.)

While not an art museum, this would be something given the terrain of the site that would really make Gilcrease unique if they did something like the California Academy of Sciences roof:

https://www.google.com/search?q=california+academy+of+sciences+roof&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjXqMfT2YDwAhX9gU4HHWPICqgQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=california+academy+of+sciences+roof&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQARgAMgIIADIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeOggIABCxAxCDAToFCAAQsQM6BAgAEEM6BwgAELEDEEM6BggAEAUQHjoECAAQGFCQggVYkrAFYLOzBWgAcAB4AIABQYgB0AeSAQIxOJgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=3m14YNfBBP2DuuoP45CrwAo&bih=920&biw=1524&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS892US897

Green roofs are expensive, but imagine the views from a living rooftop and being able to walk around. Given budget constrains I'll be happy with some sort of view room being incorporated somewhere.

That is pretty cool.  Be cool if the Children's Museum had something like this, too.  (The Smith Group people designed the Museum of the Bible in DC)   

https://www.greenroofs.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/calacademy1-1.jpg



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« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2021, 04:50:34 am »

This was when they originally were going to renovate - I'm sure it has changed quite a bit but I liked this design.  This is SmithGroup's portfolio - they do some amazing projects: https://www.smithgroup.com/our-work/projects#all




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That's a great design - I hope they're able to keep most of it. The nods to Pelli and Wright really shine.
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« Reply #56 on: April 17, 2021, 06:58:15 am »

The Arkansas Museum of Fine Art in all its upcoming 135,000sf splendor.  What will Gilcrease's 89,000sf renderings reveal for a museum of works said to be a national treasure?  https://www.dezeen.com/2021/04/16/studio-gang-arkansas-museum-of-fine-arts-construction/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%20Dezeen&utm_content=Daily%20Dezeen+CID_90bb821e730d3b732a2a6afc700cb71c&utm_source=Dezeen%20Mail&utm_term=Studio%20Gang%20reveals%20folded%20concrete%20roof%20of%20Arkansas%20Museum%20of%20Fine%20Arts
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« Reply #57 on: April 17, 2021, 07:40:53 am »

That's a great design - I hope they're able to keep most of it. The nods to Pelli and Wright really shine.

Terribly sad design. Uninspired.  Drab and boring. It's an insult to the people, the children, the guests who will visit.  My heart literally hurts when I look at it.
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« Reply #58 on: April 17, 2021, 08:15:55 am »

I think that was the design concept they were using when they were trying to keep the original building.  It is my understanding that the new design will be nothing like that.  Here is an article that was in the Tulsa World a few weeks ago with some elevation diagrams.

https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/the-new-gilcrease-museum-building-will-be-taller-thinner-but-wont-look-much-different-from/article_11faaee2-3b3a-11eb-bbf4-4b09277655c3.html
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« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2021, 06:32:10 am »

Terribly sad design. Uninspired.  Drab and boring. It's an insult to the people, the children, the guests who will visit.  My heart literally hurts when I look at it.

Well I'd just like to see whatever design they go with integrate with the landscape regardless if children are insulted by it.
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