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President Trump- The Implications

Started by Conan71, November 09, 2016, 10:24:31 AM

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heironymouspasparagus

And now the CBO is telling us how bad the tax cuts and budget busting military spending are gonna be -

$800 billion deficit next year.

$1 Trillion the next.  Welcome back to the Bush Age of profligate spending and tax cuts with no regard to the national debt.


"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Surprise search warrant and confiscation of records at Cohen's office.  Let's see if Trump is gonna do the obstruction of justice thing one more time....   Will Rosenstein get fired..??

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

patric

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 09, 2018, 05:28:07 PM
Surprise search warrant and confiscation of records at Cohen's office.  Let's see if Trump is gonna do the obstruction of justice thing one more time....   Will Rosenstein get fired..??


"An attack on our country"

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/trump-fbi-raid-michael-cohen.html
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

cannon_fodder

All fake news.  The GOP appointed and lead investigation used [fake news I guess?] to get the Trump appointed US Attorney to draft a search warrant, get it approved by the GOP lead DOJ, convince  a Federal Judge to sign off, and the Trump appointee led FBI to execute a warrant on Trump's personal attorney.  It's all bias because they are all either really Democrats or worked for Obama, something about Hillary, and the investigation already found that there was no collision anyway.  And, don't forget, an attack on the King is an attack on the country in a true sense, an attack we won't stand for!

At least, according to our President.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/trump-cohen-mueller-full-transcript.html

This is a big deal.  Not necessarily about Trump directly. But going after Attorney-Client files is not something that should be taken lightly.  Given the scrutiny this action is sure to face and that many organizations in the Executive branch had to be involved, I would be surprised if they decided to move forward with something trivial. 

This is not normal.

In unrelated news:

Judge finalizes $25 million settlement for 'victims of Donald Trump's fraudulent university'
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I crush grooves.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: cannon_fodder on April 10, 2018, 08:34:41 AM
All fake news.  The GOP appointed and lead investigation used [fake news I guess?] to get the Trump appointed US Attorney to draft a search warrant, get it approved by the GOP lead DOJ, convince  a Federal Judge to sign off, and the Trump appointee led FBI to execute a warrant on Trump's personal attorney.  It's all bias because they are all either really Democrats or worked for Obama, something about Hillary, and the investigation already found that there was no collision anyway.  And, don't forget, an attack on the King is an attack on the country in a true sense, an attack we won't stand for!

At least, according to our President.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/trump-cohen-mueller-full-transcript.html

This is a big deal.  Not necessarily about Trump directly. But going after Attorney-Client files is not something that should be taken lightly.  Given the scrutiny this action is sure to face and that many organizations in the Executive branch had to be involved, I would be surprised if they decided to move forward with something trivial. 

This is not normal.

In unrelated news:

Judge finalizes $25 million settlement for 'victims of Donald Trump's fraudulent university'




"Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."


Another one just as bad as Trump.





"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Hoss

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 10, 2018, 01:52:17 PM


"Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."


Another one just as bad as Trump.

Watched that movie the other night.  While I don't think Frank Langella is quite the likeness to Nixon (Langella is 6'3", Nixon was four inches shorter at 5'11") he did seem to have his mannerisms down.  I liked him better as Nixon than I did Anthony Hopkins.

It also sealed my opinion of Sam Rockwell as an actor.  So good.  I had recently watched Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri and Rockwell is such an underrated actor.  Until this year I guess.  The Academy will likely garner him more meaty roles than playing the villain in a Marvel sequel.  :)  He was incredibly good in Frost/Nixon.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Hoss on April 10, 2018, 02:34:46 PM
Watched that movie the other night.  While I don't think Frank Langella is quite the likeness to Nixon (Langella is 6'3", Nixon was four inches shorter at 5'11") he did seem to have his mannerisms down.  I liked him better as Nixon than I did Anthony Hopkins.

It also sealed my opinion of Sam Rockwell as an actor.  So good.  I had recently watched Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri and Rockwell is such an underrated actor.  Until this year I guess.  The Academy will likely garner him more meaty roles than playing the villain in a Marvel sequel.  :)  He was incredibly good in Frost/Nixon.


I haven't seen the movie... I watched it live, in real time, when it was happening.  Including David Frost's interview....

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Hoss

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 10, 2018, 03:11:14 PM

I haven't seen the movie... I watched it live, in real time, when it was happening.  Including David Frost's interview....


When Watergate was happening I was 5.  So I don't remember much.  The Nixon interview I guess I was in fourth or fifth grade.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Hoss on April 10, 2018, 04:00:11 PM
  When Watergate was happening I was 5.  So I don't remember much.  The Nixon interview I guess I was in fourth or fifth grade.



Difficult to say which is more nauseating to watch and listen to - Trump or Nixon.   Both the same pathological liars and criminals...just different industries. 

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

heironymouspasparagus

Ryan gives up.   I never was much impressed by him but he did try to do a job made much more difficult by that clandestine Secret Organization, the House Freedom Caucus....you know what those are, like the KKK - hiding behind their anonymity.

Imagine our collective surprise as a state to know the Jim Bridenstein is a member in good standing!  Lol...no surprise at all, just being facetious.



And yeah, I know - several of them have been 'outed' by other members of Congress, but they try to maintain their secret-decoder-ring-club status to this day.  If they weren't up to know good, why would they have to hide...??   As so many Republicontins ask when confronted about personal liberties in general.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Conan71

Interesting though that some GOP's with clout (Ryan and Gowdy) are packing their smile and going home.  They must have a pretty strong belief that there is a huge slaughter coming during the mid term and are conceding now rather than being humiliated at the polls.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Conan71 on April 12, 2018, 04:38:02 PM
Interesting though that some GOP's with clout (Ryan and Gowdy) are packing their smile and going home.  They must have a pretty strong belief that there is a huge slaughter coming during the mid term and are conceding now rather than being humiliated at the polls.



Also, Ryan is still planning on running for President in 2020 and he is absolutely hoping some of this sh$t that splashed on him from his actions will "wash" off by then.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

rebound

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 12, 2018, 05:40:59 PM
Also, Ryan is still planning on running for President in 2020 and he is absolutely hoping some of this sh$t that splashed on him from his actions will "wash" off by then.

That was where my thoughts were on this.   Ryan gets out fairly clean right now, and has a reputation for not being in The Trump camp.  When everything blows up, he can step back in relatively unscathed and make that run.
 

Hoss

Quote from: rebound on April 13, 2018, 10:52:57 AM
That was where my thoughts were on this.   Ryan gets out fairly clean right now, and has a reputation for not being in The Trump camp.  When everything blows up, he can step back in relatively unscathed and make that run.

He's actually said he's not interested in running.  But that never stopped anyone before.

Townsend

Quote from: rebound on April 13, 2018, 10:52:57 AM
That was where my thoughts were on this.   Ryan gets out fairly clean right now, and has a reputation for not being in The Trump camp.  When everything blows up, he can step back in relatively unscathed and make that run.

NPR analysts agree with you