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« Reply #195 on: November 13, 2016, 09:56:56 am »

Looks like the Dems are the real smile show they have gotten their asses kicked across the board Trump was the final nail being hammered in....... Grin Grin Grin

Not really. Clinton beat Trump in the popular vote, and although that didn't equate to victory in the Electoral College, it shows that Democratic turnout is still very good. Trump's supporters, many of them disaffected blue collar workers, are about to find out that those rust belt jobs he promised are never coming back. They've been betrayed and used. As usual, evangelicals chose political power in pursuit of their social agenda rather than adherence to their much-vaunted morals, and already we're seeing a rift developing. The only ones who will gain substantially are Wall Street types. Trump did not betray his class.

But that's not meant to imply the Democrats are blameless. They too used blue collar workers as pawns in previous elections, paying little more than lip service to union rights and workers genuine needs. They can return as Democratic voters IF the party can show concrete, demonstrable changes that support workers.
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« Reply #196 on: November 13, 2016, 10:13:36 am »

Not really. Clinton beat Trump in the popular vote, and although that didn't equate to victory in the Electoral College, it shows that Democratic turnout is still very good. Trump's supporters, many of them disaffected blue collar workers, are about to find out that those rust belt jobs he promised are never coming back. They've been betrayed and used. As usual, evangelicals chose political power in pursuit of their social agenda rather than adherence to their much-vaunted morals, and already we're seeing a rift developing. The only ones who will gain substantially are Wall Street types. Trump did not betray his class.

But that's not meant to imply the Democrats are blameless. They too used blue collar workers as pawns in previous elections, paying little more than lip service to union rights and workers genuine needs. They can return as Democratic voters IF the party can show concrete, demonstrable changes that support workers.

Look who you're responding to Ed.  Likely in one ear/out the other.

And the Dem turnout wasn't good at all.  Not like it should have been.  It always takes an election like this for a post-mortem to be done.  Hopefully the Dems will listen to it moreso than the Republicans did last time...you know, "stop being the party of stupid" and all that?  Stop alienating minorities?  While they came out ahead this election, from all accounts they didn't do alot to help with that.

My hope, is that Trump's claim of 'being the least racist person I know' is true and his rhetoric during the campaign was just that.  I have my doubts, but am willing to give him the benefit of it (unlike Republican supporters who for the last eight years have done everything they could to delegitimize the legally elected President).

And for those who say Trump has a mandate?  He may have the two houses of Congress (although not the Senate if you consider right now it's not a filibuster-proof entity) but winning the EC and losing the PV doesn't give him a mandate.  I hope those Republicans who distanced themselves from him are just as critical of what he wants as they should be.

Time for Dems to stop being pussies.  I have a feeling that may finally happen (although I'm skeptical).  If there's one thing the Republicans are good at, it's inciting interest within the base.  The DNC needs an overhaul.
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« Reply #197 on: November 14, 2016, 05:46:10 pm »

Looks like the Dems are the real smile show they have gotten their asses kicked across the board Trump was the final nail being hammered in....... Grin Grin Grin


Wasn't exactly a mandate - Trump is about a million less in popular vote than Clinton.  Probably gonna be a lot bigger difference before it's over - just not in "swing states".
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« Reply #198 on: November 14, 2016, 07:23:58 pm »

Looks like the Dems are the real smile show they have gotten their asses kicked across the board Trump was the final nail being hammered in....... Grin Grin Grin

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« Reply #199 on: November 14, 2016, 11:33:37 pm »

Looks like the Dems are the real smile show they have gotten their asses kicked across the board Trump was the final nail being hammered in....... Grin Grin Grin

Hillary is going to win by almost 2M in the popular vote. Enjoy demographic change after the 2020 census...
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« Reply #200 on: November 15, 2016, 06:21:11 am »

Hillary is going to win by almost 2M in the popular vote. Enjoy demographic change after the 2020 census...

Wait, I thought Trump was going to "take care of that".

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