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« Reply #1140 on: September 21, 2018, 09:28:48 am »

The museum will sit along Riverside. Majority of houses are a football field or two to the east. The river is west. Agree w/ you the initial rendering was much better. Cost may have played a role. Have to say the new design looks like a medical building.  Should excite the senses inside and out. Check out Cesar Pelli's Connecticut Science Center images. Doesn't have to be outrageous to be iconic. Ultimately anything will do. I hope it somehow incorporates facing the river  in its architectural
  programming. Lost opportunity otherwise. There doesn't appear to be any relationship to the river...like if they put a standard QuikTrip there. Looks like it reflects park better than water. Maybe renderings don't do it justice.
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« Reply #1141 on: September 21, 2018, 09:37:34 am »

I think it's a nice design with some elements which resemble Frank Lloyd Wright's prairie-style architecture. The Lodge seems to have quite a bit of that style/influence in it. I appreciate crazy eccentric design, especially for museums and a childrens' museum seems like a perfect opportunity for that, but this will likely be visible from neighborhoods so maybe they are being especially considerate of that, not being too ostentatious. The look is pretty complimentary of the other Gathering Place buildings.



I would drop the LED video screens on the exterior walls, considering the building's location.
That should have been a no-brainer (and it wouldnt have been code anyway).
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« Reply #1142 on: September 21, 2018, 10:58:45 am »

I would drop the LED video screens on the exterior walls, considering the building's location.
That should have been a no-brainer (and it wouldnt have been code anyway).

Haven't you heard? You've got to put GIANT LED VIDEO SCREENS on the outside of any rendering to show how cutting edge and high-tech it is! That's how the board members know they're getting only the very best.
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« Reply #1143 on: September 21, 2018, 11:05:45 am »

The museum will sit along Riverside. Majority of houses are a football field or two to the east. The river is west. Agree w/ you the initial rendering was much better. Cost may have played a role. Have to say the new design looks like a medical building.  Should excite the senses inside and out. Check out Cesar Pelli's Connecticut Science Center images. Doesn't have to be outrageous to be iconic. Ultimately anything will do. I hope it somehow incorporates facing the river  in its architectural
  programming. Lost opportunity otherwise. There doesn't appear to be any relationship to the river...like if they put a standard QuikTrip there. Looks like it reflects park better than water. Maybe renderings don't do it justice.

I'm not a fan of the Connecticut Science Center and wouldn't like it if something resembling that was put in the Gathering Place (and something that tall would be very visible from neighborhood). I strongly prefer the design they chose over some chopped-up looking office-building-reimaginedTM. I wish they could've made that original one work because it seemed like the best fit, would've been almost seemless coming from the Gathering Place 4-seasons garden on to that. 
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« Reply #1144 on: September 21, 2018, 03:09:25 pm »

The TW added a map showing the site at 33rd Place & Riverside.  Is that correct or is it actually 33rd Street?  I didn't realize they owned the properties along 33rd Place.  Definitely a deviation from their previous plan and will be interesting to see what they end up doing with the rest of the 30 acres around Crow Creek.  The area south of the creek has never been a part of Phase 2 in the plans they have released.



Though a quote from the article mentions the site could change..

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Thursday’s unveiling culminated a process that has taken architects through three designs and as many locations, said Sarah Gould, an owner at KKT. The final site still could shift slightly north, she said.

“It went from a building in a park to a building integrated with a park setting,” Gould said. “Now it’s close to the street, so it’s much more urban and kind of creates a boundary to the park edge.”

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« Reply #1145 on: September 21, 2018, 08:15:05 pm »

Haven't you heard? You've got to put GIANT LED VIDEO SCREENS on the outside of any rendering to show how cutting edge and high-tech it is! That's how the board members know they're getting only the very best.
I'm not a fan of the Connecticut Science Center and wouldn't like it if something resembling that was put in the Gathering Place (and something that tall would be very visible from neighborhood). I strongly prefer the design they chose over some chopped-up looking office-building-reimaginedTM. I wish they could've made that original one work because it seemed like the best fit, would've been almost seemless coming from the Gathering Place 4-seasons garden on to that. 

Respect your opinion. Again, the design is OK. Sort of professional medical building or similar. Fairly unimaginative IMO for a facility with purpose to spark imagination. It may just be flat renderings to me. Also some relationship to water---a partial wavy facade or something.  I'm fairly traditional in taste, but most everything new in Tulsa looks like everything else in Generic City USA. Very little character added last 20-30 years. Always think that when getting back from a vacation. The design they picked for the lot next to PAC looks like it was bought from a fabric pattern store. Been done everywhere 30,000 times. It will be what it will be. And it will be OK. BOK Center is iconic, Williams/BOK Tower, downtown art deco & Boston Ave. Meth. Church, Pavilion, IPE Building,etc.  Like BOK Center, Williams Tower, IPE Building, Gathering Place ---- lead, don't follow.
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« Reply #1146 on: September 23, 2018, 07:12:31 pm »

Anyone know when they plan to finish the work along the river bank and take down the fences along the new trail next to GP?  I know there is a lot more work to do along the river by the bridge so it makes sense to keep them up there.
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